Will the REAL HW champ please stand up?

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  1. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not just the Regular champion of Bulgaria
     
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  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gold.
     
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  3. Aburius

    Aburius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Irregular Champions go real quiet when the Regular Champion is brought up. That's how they ducked Charr for like a decade.
     
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  4. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Love him or hate him; Usyk is definitely irregular..

    Definitely was afraid of Charr too.

    He was an animal...

    Pulev aged him out
     
  5. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just Usyk. Dubois is a paper title holder.
     
  6. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    Same title Tyson and Holyfield fought for.

    To be fair Pulev is Bonecrusher Smith level and not as bad as some of recent regular title holders.

    i think it started with Povetkin when wba decided to not add “regular” when announcing “wba world championship”

    after Povetkin and Chagaev holding it really went down a level when someone like Trever Bryan was champ
     
  7. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not. When Tyson and Holyfield fought for it, it was a major world title. Now the Super Duper belt is the one.
     
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  8. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    i know was taking a pi$$.

    but believe it or not i one read in wikipedia that Povetkin has more wba title defences that Wlad! It was just before their fight. Wlad was Supper WBA champ and Povetkin regular.

    Point is all there titles are becoming joke and WBA as oldest is front runner of this circus.

    as much as i don’t like how that “undisputed” belt looks like i wish Usyk would have just dropped all other belts and defend that belt.

    Same as Larry Holmes kinda did.
     
  9. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry, sometimes it's hard to distinguish trolling in the threads like this one.
     
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  10. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    2.0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    None of the other champs want to face Gjergjaj the true HW champ.
     
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  12. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pulev is back on track, the victory over Charr brings optimism that we will again see big fights in which Pulev will be, I'm emotional because Pulev is a boxer I've always been happy to follow and the reason for that is his high KO ratio...
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Becoming" a joke?
     
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    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who has claim to what will depend on what happens at the end of this month.

    The real world champ is Usyk. If Fury wins in a couple weeks, he's the real world champ.

    But, going forward, a lot will depend on which org has the next mandatory.

    I believe the WBC mandatory is next for the winner. The last WBC mandatory was when Fury fought Dillian Whyte in 2022. There isn't a WBC mandatory at the moment. That will be decided in February if Zhang and Kabayel fight.

    The WBO mandatory is Parker, and the WBO mando would've been next for Usyk if he never unified with Fury, but Parker is reportedly fighting Dubois for the IBF belt, also in February. So that removes the WBO mandatory defense.

    The current WBA mandatory is Pulev, based on his win Saturday. The last WBA mandatory defense was Usyk-Dubois.

    Regardles, the winner of Fury-Usyk may decide he doesn't want all those belts (and the fees that come with them). Fury held them all before, and all but the WBC has stripped him. I could easily see him dumping the WBA and WBO straps if he picks them up.

    If Usyk wins, he's talked about leaving the heavyweight division. He's already beaten Dubois, and a WBC mandatory is up next, but who that is remains up in the air.

    Either way, the winner of Usyk-Fury will also likely only fight once in 2025. Or not until the end of next year, against the WBC mando, or the WBA mando, if at all.

    IF the winner says to hell with mandatories and drops any belts, there could realistically be four belt holders at the start of 2025 ... with Dubois holding the IBF belt and Pulev and Parker getting elevated to full champs by the WBA and WBO, respectively.

    That would make Dubois-Parker an IBF-WBO unification in February.

    And that would make Pulev's belt suddenly a real prize ... and he could possibly sell the defense to the highest bidder. Whoever fights Pulev, likely wins. (Enter Anthony Joshua and Eddie Hearn.)

    The fact that even the WBC is making the Kabayel-Zhang fight an interim title fight means they may have gotten word that winner of Fury-Usyk could be realistically thinking of dumping everything (and adopting Turki's weird belt).

    Sounds like December may be the last time we see all these longtime alphabet belts in the same ring for a while.

    Unless someone decides to start collecting them while the Usyk-Fury winner sits out most of 2025.

    Dubois-Parker could be the start of that.
     
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