How big was Ali as an overall sports figure?

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  1. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    At his prime, was he actually the most famous/popular athlete in the world?

    Today, it's hard to picture any boxer being in that role among the hierarchy of present sports stars.
     
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  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Unquestionably the biggest star worldwide in the 1960's and 1970's. Pele probably was his closest competition, but didn't have the stateside recognition that Ali had. Boxing was considerably more mainstream at that point, which helped matters a bit.
     
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  3. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You had Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Anwar Sadat, Indira Gandhi, Leonid Brezhnev, Deng Xiaoping, Dustin Hoffman, Clint Eastwood, Dianna Ross, Kris Kristofferson, and Waylon Jenings wanting to bask in his reflective glow for starters. When Anwar Sadat, Jimmy Carter, and Menachem Begin were working on what would be the Camp David Accord Carter and Sadat stole some time to watch the Ali-Spinks rematch.
     
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  4. nyterpfan

    nyterpfan Active Member Full Member

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    I would say that certainly throughout the decade of the 70's Ali was the most recognized and celebrated athlete in the world!
     
  5. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    Pelé was bigger than Ali until Zaire 74. After that is Ali.
    There was a civil war in Nigeria in 1969, when Santos was about to play in there the two sides agreed to a cease fire but only during the match to see Pelé playing.
     
  6. Philosopher

    Philosopher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At his peak, Ali could have been parachuted anywhere in the world and recognised shortly after landing, he was THAT famous. And all this pre internet. Its actually quite incredible.
     
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  7. he grant

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    There was a time that he was the most famous man in the world ... he was gigantic bees nt only was he huge in the States but through out the Muslim world as well ...
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali's fame was unprecedented. Everyone,no matter who or where they were,knew of him.
     
  9. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    He was a state guest of Leonid Brezhnev in the Soviet Union. His challenge of Larry Holmes was close circuited live to both the Soviet Union and People's Republic of China.

    John Lennon once infamously said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus Christ, but they were completely unknown in mainland China until Xinhua finally acknowledged their existence in a story about Lennon's assassination.

    Muhammad Ali however was indeed far bigger than John Lennon ever possibly could've fantasized about the Beatles ever becoming. (Ditto Elvis, who was also unknown behind the Iron Curtain.) He completely revived boxing as the result of Kinshasa, was easily the most famous human being in the world, and was fully aware of it. He held onto the WBA HW Championship for a bit after Leon Spinks II in order to use his possession of that Championship as a bully pulpit. (Norton and Holmes were completely in his shadow. To the WORLD, Muhammad Ali was THE CHAMPION!)

    Nobody in boxing has ever been that famous before or since, and never can be. He's probably the only boxer who will ever be the world's most famous person, and the only person in sports who will ever be the most famous person in the world. (Pele? Only if his fame matched Ali's in both the Muslim and Communist worlds.)
     
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  10. The Fighting Yoda

    The Fighting Yoda Active Member Full Member

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    To Wikipedia entries about Muhammad Ali, who obviously had his greatest popularity long before the Internet era.

    That's why the sheer click number isn't that decisive.

    But: entries in 136 different languages

    Compared with that: Mike Tyson (85), Floyd Mayweather Jr. (59), Wladimir Klitschko (45) or Michael Jordan (107).
    But Pele (141) has a few more entries. Football is big in many small countries though. Ali was a representative figure of Islam (some countries with large population) and famous in Africa as well.
    He is definately up there.
     
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  11. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have him as one of the three most consequential African Americans of the twentieth century. You can guess the other two, one of whom was his intimate.
     
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  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He was massive..
     
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  13. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Definitely.
     
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  14. Philosopher

    Philosopher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman summed it up when he said Ali wasn't the greatest boxer he'd ever fought, he was the greatest man...A cultural icon without doubt.
     
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  15. Micheal J.

    Micheal J. New Member Full Member

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    Ali was the most recognizable and famous PERSON, not just athlete, worldwide during the 1970s!