usyk should have lost or drawn!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Juan carlos, Dec 25, 2024.


  1. UtterCup

    UtterCup A lover not a fighter Full Member

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    Are you sure "they have to go somewhere"? For me there is nothing wrong with scoring a round 10 each, but it's admittedly quite rare to see. To repeat what I said in another thread, I find it amazing three judges watched the fight and didn't score a single round as a draw.

    On your 2nd point, I have thought about that too. But I'd rather have a "unanimous scorecard" even though it kinda opens up other issues. My idea would be three judges who unanimously agree on the rounds score, or it is a draw.

    I kinda think open scoring might help too, Fury could argue he'd have fought the final rounds differently if he knew the score. And the score wouldn't be sprung on the viewer at the very end, like a nasty surprise. Taylor didn't rob Caterall to the average US viewer who'd watched Taylor scrape by on Ward's live scorecard.
     
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  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Yes, but the amount of it is raising my blood pressure to critical levels.
     
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  3. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson Fury did win, but in Illusions created by his fans...
     
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  4. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    This.
     
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  5. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent post sir. Tbh this fight brings up the old question of how do you score a fight and where are the morals in the criteria for scoring fights.

    Like you say Usyk clearly won 5 rounds but Fury has an argument to have won 7 close rounds.

    Its difficult and of course subjective. I thought Fury was going to get the nod but delighted Usyk go it. I think I was also influenced being an Usyk fan so that made me deliberately give Fury 4 of the first 5 rounds to prove I am not bias lol.
     
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  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Draw is probably the best case you could argue for Fury. Gut feeling on the night was that Usyk had nicked it, but that the judges were going to give it to Fury. 116-112 across the board was honestly a pretty surprising score considering the close nature of many of the rounds.
     
  7. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Between those threads, and Dildo Denis crying how 136lbs Demetrius the Mighty Mouse Johnson would make them tap out the same night (despite Usyk being a capable wrestler himself) it's just hilarious how many know-it-alls and narcissists are triggered by Usyk being larger than life and a decent man.

    Not shooting at you Juan, just using the thread to post that.
     
  8. ChiefGego

    ChiefGego Active Member Full Member

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    Or because Bakole hasn't done nearly enough to get a shot before people like Parker, Dubois, Zhang etc?? And got smashed by Hunter, who... Usyk beat?
     
  9. TomThumbIsNumb

    TomThumbIsNumb New Member banned Full Member

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    And isn't the classic avoidance excuse, hmm ? "He doesn't deserve a shot" So what Bakole lost to Hunter and Usyk beat Hunter ? Since when has boxing been 1+1 = 2 ?
     
  10. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury: 2, 5, 9
    Usyk: rest of the rounds

    117 - 111 Usyk.
     
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  13. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Materially, Usyk has now defeated Fury twice via clear margins. They were not close fights.

    I believe Usyk would’ve also beaten whatever version of Fury people choose to nominate as being “best”.

    Any which way, the best vs best outcome remains in the realm of speculation and of course that isn’t just because Fury was off peak when they finally met, Usyk was quite obviously beyond his own prime also.

    Also, it wasn’t Usyk avoiding/delaying the fight prior to the first encounter - that was all Fury, which tells you how Tyson felt about his chances against Usyk going some time back.
     
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  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Also, 10 of the 12 rounds, Usyk out landed Fury. Fury only out landed Usyk in 1 round. I had it 8-4. Usyk, AKA Fury's papa.
     
  15. serioussam

    serioussam Active Member Full Member

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    Doesn't matter if the fight was close. It was Fury's turn and he had to KO or totally outclass Usyk to show his greatness

    Fury haven't impress anyone, even not his fans but it's not a shame against someone like Usyk