Tyson Fury: Physically Strong but Mentally Weak

I can understand why some think he's mentally weak. He's inconsistent and lacks that self discipline that say a Joshua has to stay in shape year round. But then on the big stage Fury usually rises to the occasion while someone like Joshua despite all his self discipline in the gym mentally unravelled after the 2nd loss to Usyk unlike Fury.

I'd say mentally Fury is pretty strong, but inconsistent. He can struggle at times against lesser fighters but then raise his level in fights where he's struggled because he has that mental strength to stay calm when things are not going his way and then raise his game.

 

With all the apparent depression n suicide, it confirms he is mentally weak.

 

What? Have you ever suffered from mental illness or even known anyone who has? Because mental illness can absolutely crush you to pieces, it's an awful thing to experience. The amount of perseverance and grit needed to come out on the other side of that kind of stuff (the stuff that Fury has a well-documented history of dealing with) is tremendous. Fury's history of mental illness proves the entirely opposite point, that he is mentally tough and resilient.

 

Totally agree, much how someone isn't brave because they don't feel fear they are brave because they can overcome their fear. Being mentally ill isn't a sign of weakness, it's easy to appear to be mentally strong when you have no adversity to confront. Fury is plagued by his poor mental health and somehow is still able to be the 2nd best heavyweight of his generation.

Same when Simona Biles pulled out in Rio due to the suffering from the twisties, people questioned her mental fortitude and then she came back and proved them all wrong in Paris. If you are mentally weak you don't become elite in any sport.

 

Because it's my opinion

 

You've outlined ways in which I agree he is mentally weak, yet just as he is weak in things like discipline, he is also very mentally strong in willfulness, ring IQ, creativity, quick thinking. in the big moment. He's as mentally assertive and cunning as you can essentially ever be, during the big moment. But obviously you can only do so much with a body you're abusing. It's a strange interplay between strength of mind in the moment and weakness of mind in the preparation.

 

Not mentally weak, just not 100% committed to being a professional fighter.

It's the gypsy curse.

 

these people think this is somehow excluded from being called a weakness. Like its not pc to include them.
bipolar, anxiety, depression, addiction, all these things are weaknesses. all these things are things you dont want to pass on to your children because its a weakness. you dont need medications or changes because youre strong, you need them because youre not right.

 

Fury seems to always get up for the big fights.

Lesser opposition and he slacks off a bit.

In between fights he's a disaster.

I can't see retirement working out well for him.

 

It is not a strength, it is a weakness I would not wish on people, but it is a weakness.
he SUFFERS from bipolar, he wanted to quit on life. Suffering is a negative, so is quitting on life.
If it’s not a weakness, why do you need medical help to get through it?

Even being anonymous online talking to strangers I would not disclose my own or loved ones experiences, certainly wouldn’t be telling the world when I’m as well known as he is. These are generally things one deals with in private. I commend him for his bravery on speaking about it, I never said he’s not brave. But I would not have recommended it, nor would I recommend my children to announce it on social media or to the school should they experience such things.

The other warriors of old and present do not disclose this stuff for a reason, but almost every sports person experiences forms of depression.

Seems I hit a nerve with you. stop being a wee Jessie.

If you go on a work night out and get horny, shag the ugliest bird at work, then tell everyone….i would commend your bravery but I would suggest not telling everyone.

 

Except that I am actually making a valid point here. I don't support either fighter, but it is straight facts that if you have a disciplined lifestyle and train properly for your whole career - you will be a better athlete. How can you deny that?

 

I see your point man, the warriors code; just like Mickey ward from Lowell MA he had an indomitable will to keep fighting, no matter what.

 

The point i understand but it’s not fury, that’s a usyk attribute in this scenario.
Another If then, if AJ loosened up more, if wilder practiced his footwork more, if Dubois matures quicker, ….

 

Mickey ward made lots of money and was an icon at a point in the 90’s, not due to his skillset but because he fought with the warrior code. I think he’s in the hof too n it will be because of this.

 

1000% Edward berlanga would say lol. Now that is something we can both agree on 100%! Mickey was a throwback for darn sure.