Should there be a trilogy?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I wouldn’t mind seeing it again as it was the most high level rivalry at heavyweight in a long time, but it doesn’t make sense since Usyk is 2-0.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk is 4-0 against Belly and AJ despite him being the one who had everything stacked against him

    Him being the one who was giving away massive/obscene physical advantages.

    Him being the years older or much older fighter who was four months shy of turning 35 going into the first AJ fight.

    Him being the one the boxing establishment desperately wanted to lose in every single one of those fights

    Despite neither deserving a rematch against him, let alone two

    And even worse. Look at how sore loser AJ treated him after Usyk whooped him for the second time in the rematch he didn't even deserve? Even if AJ did deserve A third crack at trying to best Usyk which he didn't. He didn't deserve it for just being such a sore loser and the way he treated Usyk and his team during his meltdown

    And look at the way sore loser Belly treated Usyk, messed him around, stalled Usyk's career, and disrespected the much more accomplished and decorated three-belt king, former undisputed CW champ, the then and current P4P king, and former Olympic, world, and European gold medal winner king at the negotiating table with a highly unfair and insulting purse split after his own promoter was on record saying the fight would be ''easy to make'' and it would be a ''50-50 split''

    Then look at his post-fight comments about the judges giving it to the Ukrainian because his country is at war. Funny how that logic didn't apply to Loma and Bohachuk vs Haney and Ortiz, eh?

    Usyk is the only one who was robbed by judges in his fights against them and of a KO win by the ref in Belly I

    And and his team have been the epitome of class throughout despite all of this which they were well within their rights not to be

    They would've made Usyk vs AJ III had AJ beaten Dubois and now they're trying speak Usyk vs Belly III into existence

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    He's 2-0 against both. No other fighter would be expected to do this, let alone against way bigger giants in a division they're tiny for

    Just keep giving them shots at him until eventually one of the manages to get the win

    A trilogy? Are you kidding me? GTHOH.
     
  3. gneall

    gneall Active Member Full Member

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    In Wembley, too? Stop trying to seed artificial support for this online, Frank!
     
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  4. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Fury earns it, maybe. But not right after a second straight defeat.
     
  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury should fight Joshua

    Usyk vs the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev
     
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  7. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury is in a similar situation to Groves with Froch where he was competitive but making the trilogy is hard to justify in boxing culture because he lost twice. Actually Groves was in a better position because the first loss was truly a corrupt stoppage and he was winning, but it's the same type of thing where he wanted the trilogy and everyone knew it was a competitive matchup, but it couldn't really be justified.

    Groves' idea was to get a belt then make a unification fight with Froch which could give him the justification. Fury might have the same idea, but not sure he can get the Dubious/Parker fight when they will want Usyk.

    Fact is he messed up taking the MMA fight and getting concussed before the first fight where low and behold he almost got KO'd and also getting fat for the second. Before that he messed up stabbing Davison in the back and hiring 'Sugar Hill'. He might still have lost twice but it would have been closer, and it's conceivable he could have got a draw even if he didn't get a decision and then he would have a better case for the trilogy.
     
  8. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No. Trilogy is usually when it's 1-1 or there was some kind of a controversy. I don't see this warranting one unless Fury went on a spectacular win streak
     
  9. crixus85

    crixus85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Perfect post, deserves to be read again.
     
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  10. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, if by any chance Fury won the first fight, then he would have refused the rematch, declaring that he is better than Usyk, the winner between Dubois and Parker deserves that fight...
     
  11. Bofo24

    Bofo24 hobbyist Full Member

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    Why not, but must offer huge/greater money/percentage then (although I'm not really a super fan of rematches). Though Fury should move on from Usyk even if just for now as a 3rd fight could end up with him losing badly, eg. Pacquiao-Marquez. The higher IQ fighter would likely benefit more with rematches, with more data. Fury and his camp already tried two different approaches and neither worked. His clinching and supposed weight and inertia advantages didn't work in the second approach too. No more surprises. Just target the likes of AJ for huge money/event, and Dubois which I think he could outbox/dominate quite similar to Wilder since his IQ is seemingly way higher than the two.
     
  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Usyk has proven he is the better man and Fury knows he cannot beat him. Nothing controversial in both fights with the correct result. The only controversy is the referee saving Fury from being knocked out in the first fight.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks
     
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  15. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    let's assume Usyk wants 3 more fights

    Let's say Usyk fights and beats the winner of Parker-Dubois.

    Fury needs to fight and beat the winner of Kabayel-Zhang.

    If Fury can beat the winner of Kabayel-Zhang and Usyk beats winner of Dubois-Parker, then you could potentially justify a triology.

    Fury has not beaten a legit top opponent since Wilder 3 years ago. Good lord.

    He needs to beat a legit top 10 guy, whether it's Kabayel, Zhang, Bakole etc. And then we can talk tribology.