Sonny Liston vs Riddick Bowe primes

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We'll leave that tired old nonsense that Liston '' crapped '' out against Ali for another post.
How many fighters would not have been befuddled by the peak Ali's jab ? Precious few,perhaps none.
Interesting that you raised the subject of facial rearrangement.I suggest you look up what an aged,past-prime
Liston did to Chuck Wepner.

 

A young,inexperienced Sonny Liston fought several rounds with a broken jaw in only his 8th professional
fight.
I recommend that you look up the word '' quitter '' in a dictionary and find out what it means.

 

Williams was Jerry Cooney level. He was stiff and not a skilled and fluid combination puncher like Bowe was.

Supposed inside abilities? See , biased exposed , just like I said. Bowe was the greatest inside fighting SHW of all time.

You can either box on the inside or you can't. Its better if you can. All throughout history guys lost fights because they couldn't cope with pressure on the inside.

If a guy can fight better on the inside against a smaller pressure fighter , then he has the advantage.

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Bowe won all those fights. Pulling losses from victories. Is that how it works now?

If Bert Copper can almost knock Holyfield out and Moorer and Bowe beat him , then that means Mike Tyson can too right?

 

Show me a fight where Liston fought a heavy puncher like Bowe.

Eddie Machen. The same dimensions as Andre Ward. 58% stoppage rate.

Zara Folley. The same dimensions as Carl Froch. 55% stoppage rate.

His best wins were non heavies who couldn't punch.

Put those men in front of Bowe and he would be hated for bullying little guys. But we praise Liston for those wins. Because he was good for his era. But he's totally unproven against elite SHWs and picking him against Bowe is based on fantasy favouritism not reality based analysis.

 

Here we go again, Kamikaze once again bitches out and tags in someone far more knowledgeable than him because he dksab.

 

All i know about you is you're a simp for Sonny Liston . Other than rushing to Sonnys defence i couldn't differentiate you from an a-hole on an elbow

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I'm not a simp for anyone. I don't have a parasocial relationship with anyone. Which is more than I can say for you and your obsession with the K2 brothers.

 

Youre a simping bumboy for Liston. Everybody knows that. I don't even read Ur posts and I know that.

 

Managed to misspell "You're" twice. Bravo. Take some grammar lessons, and derail some more Klitschko threads with your obsessive hatred, you sad sad man.

 

The reality is Ur an obsessive gimp for Liston and suffer chronic insecurity anytime he gets mentioned negatively. Geta life loser. I'm only drawn to Ur posts when u throw a tantrum. I have no interest in u whatsoever so jog on

 

Don't make me start a Cleveland Williams appreciation thread. And Bowe would probably take a couple rounds to stop Patterson considering he needed two to beat the almighty "Smokin" Bert Cooper.

Liston beat every man he could on his way to the title, and that included bigger guys. When he faced Williams he had no issue, when he faced Valdes he had no issue, and to try to paint his flattening wins as just beating on smaller men is really untrue, and insanely ironic considering the fact that we're talking about him going up against Riddick Bowe.

Liston fought the biggest and best men in his division without trouble, whereas Bowe had issues beating ANYBODY his size. Arguably loses against a faded Tubbs, gets hard pressed to finish Biggs when he had him reeling in the first couple of rounds, gets roughed to **** against Golota twice, but you'll tell me about how SONNY was the guy who just beat up 190 lbers.

Bowe made a career off of beating on smaller men and dodging the one fighter that would've been his match, getting roughed up by power punchers sometimes THIRTY POUNDS under him, but somehow comes out the other end being seen as good enough to beat Liston? I don't follow.

 

When did Bowe become elite SHW? He didn't accomplish enough to make the grade in my book and in shape was about the same size as Foreman and Bugner who are not considered SHWs

 

So according to you Liston had a glass chin.Liston,the guy who absorbed punches from Cleveland Williams,
the same Cleveland Williams who is acclaimed as one of the hardest punchers in heavyweight history.Liston
also took punches from other formidable punchers like Nino Valdes without any ill effects.
Yet according to you Liston had a '' glass chin '' ! Gimme strength !!