Myth: Roberto Duran has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

You're correct, of course fighters make compromises on various terms and conditions to secure the fight that offers them by far the highest purse they can make at that time.

In addition to the catchweight, I suspect Canelo may have agreed to a rehydration clause.

He was reported as 165lbs on fight night vs Mayweather. As a growing 22 year old, 5 months earlier, he was 172lbs on fight night vs Trout - https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y0NvyxEm...c/voxWUPtZ6O8/s1600/4-20-2013+11-04-25+PM.jpg

 

Would not shock me. I heard on some other occasions about similar clauses being in place along with sort of a "gag order" or confidentiality clause, although I honestly never got a solid confirmation of it being the case either.
Could also be that his body could not "rebound" the same way after cutting extra weight.

 

Iirc, it was leaked that Canelo had imposed a 10lbs rehydration clause on Kovalev, who is recorded as previously, typically being in the 188-191lbs range on fight night, and that rehydration cause was supposed to be confidential as part of a mutual NDA.

Those kind of things will very likely happen far more often in the highest money fights, than the details are reported or available in the public domain.

 

a late career fight from a guy who seems to have been a big drinker doesn't mean a huge amount. a lb her or there means even less.

 

I was citing an example of a leaked rehydration cause, in response to Mastrangelo's post stating that he'd heard such confidential clauses could form part of fight contracts.

I wasn't commenting on the significance that clause had on the outcome of the fight.

That said, Canelo's team clearly had a different view as to the significance of the rehydration clause than you do, otherwise they wouldn't have included it in the fight contract.

 

Listen, I think we can all admit that we're wrong, now that some time has passed.

 

you have more experience of pro boxing than me. i wasn't undermining your post i was building on it.

they were looking for an edge, that's their job. the edge wasn't worth much there.

 

No worries mate. I agree with you that Kovalev was as good as done by that point, regardless of any rehydration clause.

 

it depends how much you take away for losses.

i think floyd has a strong argument for goat, but look at the guys duran fought.

 

What do you think of this evaluation I have for both?

Floyd Mayweather

Quality wins: Tony Pep (82), Genaro Hernández (86), Angel Manfredy (83), Carlos Rios (78), Justin Juuko (77), Carlos Gerena (82), Gregorio Vargas (78), Emanuel Augustus (84), Diego Corrales (87), Carlos Hernández (83), Jesús Chávez (85), José Luis Castillo (81), José Luis Castillo (84), Victoriano Sosa (79), Phillip N'dou (80), DeMarcus Corley (82), Henry Bruseles (79), Arturo Gatti (82), Sharmba Mitchell (86), Zab Judah (88), Carlos Baldomir (85), Oscar De La Hoya (92), Ricky Hatton (90), Juan Manuel Márquez (89), Shane Mosley (91), Victor Ortiz (86), Miguel Cotto (93), Robert Guerrero (83), Canelo Álvarez (94), Marcos Maidana (86), Marcos Maidana 2 (88), Manny Pacquiao (93), Andre Berto (83)

Quality win total: 33

Average value of quality wins: 84.79

Big 3: Manny Pacquiao (93), Canelo Álvarez (94), Miguel Cotto (93)


Roberto Durán

Quality wins: Carlos Mendoza(82), Ernesto Marcel (85), Hiroshi Kobayashi (82), Ken Buchanan (89), Hector Thompson (86), Guts Ishimatsu (86), Esteban de Jesús (88), Ray Lampkin (84), Edwin Viruet (84), Saoul Mamby (82), Lou Bizzarro (83), Vilomar Fernandez (83), Edwin Viruet 2 (84), Esteban de Jesús (90), Adolfo Viruet (83), Monroe Brooks (81), Carlos Palomino (92), Sugar Ray Leonard (98), José Cuevas (81), Davey Moore (85), Juan Carlos Giménez Ferreyra (82), Iran Barkley (90), Jorge Castro (86)

Quality win total: 23

Average value of quality wins: 85.48

Big 3: Sugar Ray Leonard (98), Esteban de Jesús (90), Carlos Palomino (92)

 

i like floyd i haven't decide yet but the only other choice for goat is ezzard charles.

duran was very great, from ernesto marcel at 130 to tommy hearns at 175. mickey walker vs opponents on steroids.