Unpopular opinion - Lomachenko is the most overrated boxer in the past decade

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  1. Hazaroth

    Hazaroth New Member banned Full Member

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    He is overrated, the guy is living off of his amateur record. Wouldn't say most overrated in past decade though when Fury, Wilder, Crawford and Tank all exist.
     
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  2. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    You have no idea what you’re seeing then
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    People love to make the size excuse for Loma. Yet Usyk is beating guys with a bigger size advantage than the guys Loma lost to. Loma was a fantastic elite fighter but he wasn’t what people made him out to be. He might be more flashy than Usyk, but Usyk is a literal genius in there and basically counters and shuts down everything that’s brought to the table. On top of that he has guts and a fantastic chin. Loma doesn’t have the same guts Usyk has, maybe it’s because he knows he isn’t as durable?
     
  4. boxingexpert733

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    He's overrated but still a great fighter. Based on eye-test and resume (yes i know 2 of his losses are controversial), I consider him an A- fighter (HOF level but not ATG). Not quite the A+ fighter (someone like usyk or inoue) some of his fans prop him up to be. Yes he fights guys bigger than him, but so do many other fighters.
     
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  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Pacquiao and mayweather also. Jmm was another

    Floyd had reach, but he routinely beat guys much heavier than him on fight night

    Loma has flashy skills, but he is certainly behind usyk, no question as a fighter
     
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  6. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah....because everyone's body is the same.
     
  7. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Given the hype he had coming in as a pro, maybe he's a tad bit overrated. People were saying he was going to be the best ever. He didn't live up to those very high expectations. But he's definitely not the 'most' overrated in the past decade. He accomplished a lot and was on P4P lists.

    What about the hype Wilder got knocking out one tomato can after another. People saying he was the biggest hitter in HW history. Yet the world class guys he faced, not only did he lose, he lost badly. And he didn't knock one of them out.

    As much as I like Crawford and I do believe he is a great fighter, he gets overrated when it comes to accomplishments. Maybe even moreso than Loma.
     
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  8. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    he is definitely atg talent but under achieved I'd agree he's over rated but only by a hand full of people
     
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  9. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    He lost to Haney and Salido fairly. You can argue his management were stupid to put him in with Salido in his 2nd pro fight but he lost that fight. Haney beat him in a close fight. The reality is that the losses to Haney whose body punches/size affected him and Teofimo whose power intimidated him has stripped him of his identity making him retire instead of fighting Tank. He now doubts himself.
     
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  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Very fair and objective comments @AdamT .
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    They aren't real losses because they van very easily be scored in favour of Loma.

    As you just said that Sturm didn't really lose to Hoya.
     
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  12. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Not crazy to say, given how his resume has ended up, with many fans crying robbery over fights that simply are not (Haney deserved to win, especially when Loma fought the 12th like he had already won in such a close bout, but especially Lopez who just outboxed him)

    Where the asterisk comes in, is that he’s fought most of his career at a weight where his opponents are clearly far bigger than him…. But that was his choice and we can’t rank on hypotheticals.

    Where I disagree with you is that he doesn’t pass the eye test. He for sure passes the eye test to me, but you make a good point about his IQ being lower than expected given his ability and experience level. This is what separates Usyk and him. Usyk doesn’t seem as physically talented or flashy, but he knows how to adjust in ways that actually matter…. Rather than letting close fights slip through his fingers and complaining about it.
     
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  13. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma was a great boxer. A great talent.

    Stayed too long in the amateurs to really make his mark in the pros.

    Had a bad management team that really didn't understand pro boxing.

    Arrogant little guy who moved up to high in weight for his munchkin body.

    All those sound like excuses and they are. He is a case of coulda-woulda-shoulda. A great talent squandered by ego, ring-wear and mismanagement.
     
  14. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fight with Salido is illustrative.

    His team puts him in with Salido fighting in South Texas.

    Salido could have hit Loma with a bottle and then stabbed him with the jagged remains and no foul would have been called.

    Loma's team putting him in that situation was not smart. His team not preparing him for what he was walking into was not smart and probably because they didn't know themselves.

    Loma walks into that fight an amateur thinking he's entering a boxing contest. He learns but too slowly and loses to a guy he should never have lost to.
     
  15. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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