Would Valuev be top 10 in current era

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  1. Probably

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe if he's matched correctly

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  1. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’ve seen Joe Joyce pull off a back flip a few times. No way is Valuev doing that.
     
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  2. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Joyce throws far better combos and has more power, Valuev was a boring plodder, Joyce is exciting and was a good amateur, no way could Valuev have won a silver at the olympics, Valuev`s amateur career:
    Russian National Championships (+91 kg), Saint Petersburg, Russia, May 1994:

    Goodwill Games (+91 kg), Saint Petersburg, July 1994:

     
  3. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah but he don’t care about that cos stats wise he’s got maybe one of the best records ever though . 2 time champ a with a 50-2 record
     
  4. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Against who?
     
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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Many felt Joyce was slow and easy to hit and yet he has wins over 2 of the names in the current top 10. Top 5 even.

    Tell me. When was Valuev TKOd for you to come to that conclusion?
    Wait for it zzzzzzz
     
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  6. Hazaroth

    Hazaroth New Member banned Full Member

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    P4P Valuev is one of the worst boxers I've seen, literally just plods around the ring throwing jabs. He was carried by the fact he's 6'11 and 330lbs along with his hard Neanderthal skull.
    As for would he be top 10, let's do a run down:
    Vs Usyk - would lose via decision
    Vs Dubois - would lose via decision
    Vs Zhang - would lose via KO
    Vs Bakole - would lose via decision, possibly KO
    Vs Fury - would lose via decision
    Vs Hrgovic - would lose via decision
    Vs Parker - would lose via decision
    Vs AJ - would lose via decision
    Vs Hunter - would lose via decision
    Vs Whyte - 50/50
    He'd be ranked 10th or 11th most likely
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    J McCline 6ft 6
    J F Bergeron 6ft 5
    B Mirovic 6ft 5

    Come to mind

    You saying his resume is garbage (I'm not saying its the best) looks silly when you are saying he wouldn't be top 10 and yet it is greater than several in the top 10
     
  8. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Valuev was hurt by Haye and another fighter, Haye was the only noted puncher than Valuev fought and Haye was just running for most of the fight without throwing many shots, Joyce`s jab and combos were far quicker and snappier than Valuev`s is was Joyce`s footwork that was stiff.
     
  9. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    None of those fighters would crack the top 10 now.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Many fighters were hurt by Haye. Have was a massive puncher but he didn't stop Valuev did he!
    Also like I noted, Valuev had great powers of recovery and it wasn't like he was hanging on to survive
    So not sure what you think you have proven there?
     
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  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nobody said they would, and we weren't talking about them cracking the top 10. Not sure what tge relevance of saying that is?
    Some fighters in the current top 10 only have wins over fighters that haven't cracked the top 10
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He'd be in and out, back and forth of the top ten here and there, just like several of this horrendous HW era.
     
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  13. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Ive seen Valuev do a full split, which was damn impressive given his size. But stretching and leg flexibility was a big part of soviet boxing warmup routines, so it´s no wonder he could do that.
     
  14. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He might get a top 10 ranking, but there is definitely more than 10 heavyweights who could defeat him.
     
  15. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    I don`t even know what you`re talking about, Haye v Valuev was the most boring fight I`ve seen, he hurt him then tried to follow up big deal, Zhang and Wilder would have put Valuev to sleep.