Tank Davis v De La Hoya?

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Not saying the legendary Nelson was not past his prime I am saying they won’t risk it and ducked him. I know this as an insider. Don King and Al Braverman were happy to make the fight and Nelson was ready to wreck the Oscar fairytale but Arum and Top Rank won’t bite. I understand it as they did not want to derail the gravy train.

    Pretty certain Tank beats Oscar at 130 and 135 pounds.
     
  2. Serge

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    Twink has been a pro for 12 years and is 30 y/o and his best win still to this day is Pedraza

    And he did not beat the same Ryan as the one who whooped Haney's ass he beat a drained catchweight cadaver. The version who fought Haney was clearly a lot heavier than that version and a way better version

    And I though he was supposed to be on PEDs when he fought Haney? :lol:

    Oscar has one of the best resumes of any fighter in the last 30 years, if not maybe the best, Twink has one of the worst and certainly of any star in recent memory.

    Oscar fought tons world champs, legit world champs, who were champs at the weight he fought them at, tons of prime world champs, tons of elite world chams

    Whereas, conversely, Twink has forged an entire career shamelessly ducking and avoiding the elite in every weight class he's fought in, waiting for them to get old like a female dog, and going on strap season against WBA regular champs, champs he dragged up in weight who were not champs at the weight he fought them at, shot world champs or who were champs long ago and/or at lower weights. I've broken it down in depth before and it's shameful what they've done trying to dupe the casuals with the smoke and mirrors

    Comparing Twink and his resume to Oscar and his resume is akin to comparing Broner and his to Floyd and his resume

    A semi-retired rusty and inactive well past prime coke fiend Oscar who had only fought once in almost three years, not at all in a year, and who should've been 1-3 in his last 4 fights beat Floyd's ass in many people's eyes and at worst took him right down to the wire. What the hell do you think a prime active sober Oscar would do to him? I've long maintained that a prime Oscar knocks Floyd out and I feel very confident about that. Floyd wanted no part of a rematch for a reason

    Floyd would never have fought many of the fighters Oscar fought or the version of them Oscar fought, let alone Twink fight them and everyone knows it :facepalm:
     
  3. Serge

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    Speaking of size

    'Gervonta Davis views the rehydration restrictions in their contracts as a way to ensure fairness entering his high-profile fight against rival Ryan Garcia.

    ''Davis has drawn criticism from Garcia, his opponent’s team and some fans for the contractual clause that prohibits the taller Garcia from weighing more than 146 pounds at a second-day weigh-in the morning of their Showtime Pay-Per-View main event April 22 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. The contracted limit for their first weigh-in April 21 is 136 pounds, one above the maximum for the lightweight division.

    Garcia, 24, and Davis, 28, both must weigh in again the morning of their fight. Davis (28-0, 26 KOs) and Garcia (23-0, 19 KOs) can add as much weight as they want from the time of their second-day weigh-in until they set foot in the ring.

    Baltimore’s Davis explained his rationale for demanding the rehydration clause during a recent appearance on Showtime’s popular show, “All The Smoke,” co-hosted by retired NBA players Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson.

    “I mean, it’s just making sure everything’s fair,” Davis said. “You know what I mean? I know that he’s a bigger fighter. He already has the advantage off the height, the size, the arm length, like everything, he has the most advantage. So, I’m just making it a little fair. You know what I mean? Just everybody stay the same. And, I mean, it ain’t like he gotta go [to a second weigh-in] and I don’t have to go. We both have to go. You know what I mean?”

    Twink thinks him fighting opponents who weigh in excess of 5lbs more than him and who have a 2½'' and 3½'' reach advantage on him as very unfair :lol:

    And even worse, he turned pro in his teens not in his mid 20s when fully grown and 135 is his 3rd weight class, not his 5th, 6th, 7th like it would've been for others had they turned pro at the same age as he did. You know, fighters who are routinely giving away 10-15lbs and huge amounts of reach fighting in their opponent's backyards with home refs and judges or on the road.

    Don't forget that he shamelessly ducked Josh Taylor at 140 after cherrypicking bum Barrios' WBA regular strap off him and then instead of hanging around and trying to fight the elite at his 3rd weight class, let alone try and become undisputed, he dropped that paper strap like it was a 10,000lb lead weight and ducked back in weight to keep dragging 118, 122, 130, or 135 pounders up in weight :facepalm:

    Now he's piped up about rematching Ryan

    Gervonta Davis wants 'massive' Ryan Garcia rematch at 140lbs.

    Tank: "It’s a massive fight. But not at 143. Probably at 140, that’s the next weight class up from 135, it’s the weight class he fights at. Let’s do 140 and he can rehydrate back up to 150, or the most 152, I’m 135 brother."


    Twink, who ''KOs HWs'' and is the ''biggest puncher in the sport'' was coming in at 146-147 at 135 but not only has he ducked the elite his entire career despite the deck being heavily stacked in his favour but he won't dare fight anyone who is ''too big'' even though ''too big'' in only more than 5lbs :facepalm:
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know it's a joke Tank has probably one of the worst resumes of all time for a fighter considered to be a top 10 P4P fighter when is he going to step up ? It's not like he hasn't got numerous big fights to make around his weightclass.

    ODLH fought a prime Tito, Quartey, Mosley, say what you want about his shenanigans outside the ring. But inside the ring ODLH fought everyone and had no fear Tank is 30 years old and people are still waiting for him to step up.

    Just compares ODLH's resume when he was 30 years old to Tank's now it will seem like a joke in comparison.
     
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  5. Serge

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    It's embarrassing and I've honestly never seen a ''star'' with a more smoke and mirrors resume and that smoke and mirrors has been carefully manufactured in broad daylight right in front of our eyes in order to pull the wool over the casual's eyes.

    Watching his fan base try to diminish actual legacy fighters, far more proven, brave, and way better fighters who routinely take risks he would never dare take once is beyond comical.

    The visceral hatred they harbour for these actual legacy fighters and risk takers who embody everything right and great about the sport is bad enough but for them to do so whilst simultaneously proclaiming the biggest frauds in the sport who embody everything wrong and disgraceful with the sport as the best fighters in the world and greats just makes it even more bizarre and offensive.

    As said, I've exposed the smoke and mirrors in depth and his CV doesn't even stand up to the lightest of scrutiny and the reason why is it's garbage
     
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  6. lufcrazy

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    Garcia has never been a champion or even fought a champion. It's a bit sad that that's the benchmark for Wahid.

    Wahid has never beaten up the best fighter in any division because he's never faced the best fighter in any division.
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Abdul Wahid Tank has beaten many world champions . Garcia is relevant after taking Haney’s soul. You don’t hear Haney calling for Tank anymore and Shakur has become more muted on Tank.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    Tell me who Wahid has beaten thatbeen the number 1 in the division?

    Of course they've gone quiet, he's ducked them, they won't chase him forever. He thinks he's the a side so why chase after someone and not get fair pay? Especially someone like Wahid where the credit for beating him isn't that special.
     
  9. Braindamage

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    LOL Thanks for proving my case. Yes Oba Carr was a damn good fighter and still may not be in ODH's top 10 opponents. Not disparaging Carr, just showing how deep ODH's resume was compared to Tank's. Bottom line, Tank needs to step up his level of opposition. He needs to beat a top guy before I can say he would beat a prime ODH.
     
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  10. African Cobra

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    He is the A side and Loma and others will get their highest career payday against Tank. Pedraza was number in the division when young Tank assassinated him and an undefeated world champion. Loma subsequently could not stop him. Haney was supposed to be the best at 135 and 140 but Tank destroyed Garcia made him quit and we know Garcia was the best at 135 and 140 after he beat Haney though doped up with Ostarine. Barrios who was an undefeated world champion at 140 pound Tank destroyed is now world champion at 147 pound# who Keith Thurman could not put away. Other victims of his are and were world champions and you know who they are.
     
  11. Joeywill

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    Oscar wins but I could see a Tank scoring flash knockdown.

    Oscar but decision
     
  12. African Cobra

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    It won’t be flash rather it may separate Oscar from his senses.
     
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  13. African Cobra

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    If Loma, Teo and Haney are afraid to fight him what do you want him to do? Maybe he should pretend he has lost his knockout power to make them brave to get in there with him.?
     
  14. Nimzo

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    There's a solid chance that DLH goes to sleep if the fights are at 130-135.

    Which fight from Oscar really makes you think that he would really dominate Gervonta Davis? All this resume speak is just a distraction from the actual point. It's not who has the better resume. I can't imagine someone can watch Oscar vs Campanella then say yea he's far above Tank already.

    Tank doesn't have the resume DLH has. That doesn't mean anything. Upsets happen all the time, time to move on to the actual point of discussion which is their skills and attributes.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    Tank won't give then a career high payday, we have Saudis now putting the beat against each other. Tank can play a side all he wants, he is in it for the money and doesn't care about legacy but this is why he can't get the fights. He ducks the best fighters and can't command the fee against the lower fighters.

    No one had Pedraza as the best SFW in the world, no one.

    Loma or Haney would have been the best LW but Wahid didn't fight them, he wouldn't fight them.

    He hasn't fought the top 140 pound fighters neither. He steered clear of Teo or Taylor.

    Wahid just doesn't fight the best and that's why his star has faded. That's why Mayweather has grown tired of him.
     
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