Floyd no credit vs Canelo

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  1. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Oscar aged 23 beat old chavez
    Lopez 23 beats Loma
    Yet Canelo who had been pro for 8 years with 40 fights loses to Floyd and Floyd gets no credit for beating green canelo, despite being over the hill

    The Goat Duran was beating Dejesus at a similar age and many were already proclaiming him as a great Lightweight

    Tyson is another who was the man blasting everyone away at that age

    Canelo may not have been prime, but after rewatching the full fight, it's bloody ridiculous how good a 36 year old Floyd was

    I know he's hated on this forum, that's fine. But I tell you now, nobody fighting today's is as talented. Not usyk, not bud, not inoue. Hate him all you want, but he was super elite
     
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    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Yeah, no one today is on Floyd or Manny’s level. That’s more a testament to how special they were than it is a knock on the top dogs today.

    I think Floyd does get credit for Canelo though. People may say he’s green, (and he was given the breadth of his career and how he turned pro early) but I’ve never seen someone say it wasn’t a good win. Floyd has a great resume.
     
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    He gets mad credit from me for it.
     
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    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    the catchweight kind of hurt specially when he started saying he only fights people at their best
     
  5. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think Canelo was green at all, infact I have previously never heard a fighter with 43 pro fights described as green. Canelo would be the only one in history. Plus watching Canelo back them , when he was throwing combinations, a greater variety of punches, more speed, and volume, he was superior than the 168 version and no different to the 160 version. Floyd beat a prime Canelo imo.
     
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    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    There's only one fighter today close to him right now

    Many hate his personality and ignore his skills
    Guy was unbelievably talented
    I'd bet both my testicle he would beat Crawford if he was around now
     
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    Agreed or at least 90% prime
    Awesome result for a 36 year old welter
     
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    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    He was built up slowly and turned pro at a very young age. If you’re not a hater and apply any nuance to it beyond “he had a lot of fights”, it’s obvious he was green, it was before the fight, and it is in hindsight as he showed his prime was sometime after that bout.

    He really only fought one world level opponent before this in Austin Trout, before fighting literally the best fighter on the planet at the time…..
     
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    He gets loads of credit for it. It's probably his best victory all things considered.

    He absolutely dominated a unified champion and the man who would go on to become p4p number 1.
     
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    Only one world level opponent? Lets see.

    Baldomir
    NDou
    Cintron
    Mosley
    Lopez
    Trout

    That a solid resume even if some of those were past their prime. Every fighter fights mostly weak opponents when they are coming up , it was not unique to Canelo. The reality is that as 23 Canelo was extremely experienced and far more experienced than most fighters at that age.
     
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    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    It’s not terrible, but also not good and none of them were even serious contenders at the time let alone champions - outside of Austin Trout*.

    I agree with your later statement, and when I say he was green, I don’t mean green like a new pro with limited amateur experience, I just mean in the grand scheme of his career.


    And again, I consider it a great win for Floyd anyway.
     
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  12. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah it was a good win and nobody is denying Floyd is an ATG he put on a master class but a lot of people who have never had to make weight before don’t realise how compromised you can be having to not only shed an extra couple pounds but then also a rehydration clause.
    If Floyd is TBE like he claims why not just fight him straight up at 154 and no BS advantages?
     
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    Usyk finishes crossword puzzle: Is he now greater than Ali, at least H2H?

    Fkiyd beats Alvarez: Pre-prime. No KO. Boring.
     
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    He utterly schooled him. He gets a lot of credit from me despite trying to drain him a bit.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

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    They do this to every undefeated fighter. There is a feeling among some that everyone has to take their lumps, or something. Floyd has a giant legacy, and there is nothing they can do about that.
     
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