Wilder v Wlad Klitschko

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  1. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I'd be very concerned for both of them, in case one person threw a punch and it landed on the other person in their head.
     
  2. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Doesn't mean the rating was accurate. Why can't you accept that ratings are sometimes not accurate.

    I'm allowed to disagree with other people's ratings

    In the real world Wilder lost to Parker and Zhang. That's reality not guesswork
     
  3. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Wlad starches him. Much like he did in sparring.
     
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  4. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    In 2017 wilder was close to his peak while wlad was way behind it and about to retire , with a brittle glass chin .

    Most probably wilder,s windmill of death at that time would crush wlad,s chin and put him on the canvas .
     
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  5. SquareUp

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    Wilder one of the least skilled hw ever.. just had the thunder of gods in his hand.
     
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  6. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Who are you?
    Are you a recognised body?
    Are you wbc?
    Are you ibf?
    Are you wba?
    Are you who?
    Are you ring?
    Are you boxrec?
    Are you trbt?
    Are you turki?

    who on earth are you and where are your rankings published?

    or are you just some smelly guy tapping his keyboard in his bedroom?

    If so, as the rock says….it doesn’t matter what you think!!!
     
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  7. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    It doesn’t matter. Being ranked by a ranking system does not mean you beat everyone below that ranking.

    I believe he would have beat those guys, yes.
    None of us can prove either way but he was a world champ, some of the guys you mentioned were not. Respect that.

    Going by your misunderstanding of rankings, whoever is ranked the best should never lose to those below them, so they would never lose their title.
    Just recently, usyk beat these heavyweights and he was ranked below most of them at the time.
    I think you need to understand boxing pal. Your confused
     
  8. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Nobody has the beating of everyone below them in a ranking system…
    A ranking system is based on achievement, not theory
     
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  9. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Seriously, this is not a boxing forum.

    I understand it’s a niche sport, and many like to think they understand it but it seems to be hard to understand it unless your actually involved in the sport, and most people aren’t.

    this forum should be called “loose men” or “pub talkers” or “wish i knew about boxing” or something.
     
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  10. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    He is not talking about “people’s” ratings, which you can disagree With.

    what you cannot disagree with are the recognised official governing bodies released rankings which are published and state their official rankings which (you may not agree with) are deemed as factual in boxing.

    like the fa in football, fia in motorsport etc. these are the official rankings which supersede our personal opinions.
    Should you wish for your opinion to be valued as such, you would need to get a job with an organisation and publish your rankings through them, or….create your own governing body which becomes respected and deemed as official, however this can take decades.
     
  11. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Some of these posters should be ashamed of themselves claiming to be boxing fans and the nonsense they come out with.

    everyone identifying with their own personal ranking is getting close to people identifying with what they feel that day.
    There are 2 official genders, 1 human species, there are 4 respected world governing bodies in boxing.
     
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  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Because ratings are what ratings are, whether or not someone wins or loses to someone they haven't fought is immaterial.

    Floyd Patterson was the champ until Sonny Liston beat him, you can't rewrite history and say Liston was the champ during Pattersons reign.

    If every single published ranking between the eras of Wlad and Usyk had Wilder in the top 3, which they did, and the only disagreement is from you, then you need to consider that it's you who's in the wrong.
     
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  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The difference in boxing skill between the two is as wide as the grand canyon. If Wlad fought his basic fight, use the jab control distance then land a straight right I cannot see Wilder beating him. Maybe a 20% chance at best
     
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  14. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Difference is warrior spirit is just as big too.
     
  15. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wider was earning 2.5 million in the US while AJ was getting 20 million a fight in UK. The money wasn't in the US, not with Wilder as the title holder.

    The fight didn't happen cause Wilder didn't want to fight AJ, point blank.
     
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