Why can't any boxer become a superstar staying at Cruiserwieght?

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  1. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Let's say there is a supremely talented boxer who is naturally at his best fighting at a weight of 200 lbs. Why does he have to either move up and purposelessly gain weight to fight at HW or conversely lose weight and significantly cut down and fight at LHW to reach superstar status?

    Usyk was probably at his peak as a fighter before he moved up to heavyweight but only became a household name after making the move. CW is not a traditional glamor division but neither is SMW where Canelo a megastar, has had his best success.
     
  2. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I assume that some of the great cruisers have been household names in their countries and areas of the world. As far as where I live in the United States, it's been almost 40 years since the US produced a high quality cruiserweight champ who hadn't made his reputation at a lighter weight first. Maybe if America produces a top notch 200 pounder he will become a household name, until then it just isn't going to happen.
     
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  3. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    The ridiculous money and legacy that the HW division has to offer compared to staying at CW.
     
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  4. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    there hasn't been a boxer in the usa who was a household name in decades.
     
  5. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    You're not wrong but I'm not sure that level of fame is even possible for a boxer in the United States anymore.
     
  6. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it will take a group of fighters like the Super Six group where it covers both sides of the pond. What those guys did for the 168 division doesn’t get enough credit.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    I am sure Optetaia could do it.
     
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  8. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not when the only way to see boxing in the usa is ppv or obscure pay services like dazn.
     
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  9. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Cruiserweight lives next to Heavyweight. Can’t keep up with the Joneses.
     
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  10. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. A heavyweight that is just a good opponent, but not championship material can easily earn several times what a dominant cruiserweight champion can earn . Whyte most likely earned more as an opponent in one fight with Fury than Usyk earned in his entire career as a cruiserweight, so any cruiserweight with very good or elite talent would be crazy to stay in the cruiserweight division for very long.

    As for recognition outside of hardcore boxing fans the cruiserweight division is viewed as insignificant much like the light heavyweight division was for many decades.

    Here is Chris Byrd talking about how Cunningham despite being a cruiserweight champion had almost no profile in public to the point that even Mayweather didn't know who he was.

    You know, I used to spar with Steve Cunningham, who’s a two-time cruiserweight champion. We must have sparred a thousand rounds. Let me tell you, Steve can fight. He was long, he was fast and he had crazy skills. He showed me that the cruiserweights ain’t no joke. But even Steve, who had a family to support like I did (Chris and wife Tracy have three children), felt the need to dabble at heavyweight. He was getting $250,000 for title defenses and was seeing some heavyweights at or near the top level, who weren’t as good a fighter as he was, getting $2.5 million to $10 million."

    Steve and I would go places together sometimes, boxing places, where you’d think people would know who was who and what was what. But everyone would come up to me and not him. When you put in all that time becoming a world champion, you want to get more of a reward for the fruit of your labors."

    I remember when Steve met Floyd Mayweather and he had to introduce himself. Floyd didn’t have any idea who he was. Unbelievable.
    https://tss.ib.tv/boxing/featured-b...-heavyweight-champ-chris-byrd#google_vignette
     
  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Would certainly like Opetaia to try. It would be great to have a long reigning, dominant champion at cruiser.
     
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  12. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    It is barren of competition. The current champ has no dancing partner. To build legacy and fame you have to have worthy opponent. There just isn’t any at the moment. Why Usyk left for the Heavy weight.