ATG's/Greats that suffered losses against far lesser opposition

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And I don't want fighters who are completely shot like some of RJJ's later losses or Tyson.

    I'll start us off.

    Jack Dempsey losing to Fireman Jim Flynn

    Roberto Duran losing to Kirkland Laing.

    Wladimir Klitschko losing to Ross Purrity.
     
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    Tyson losing to Douglas.
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Dempsey losing to Willie Meehan
    Chavez losing to Willie Wise
     
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    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, technically Toney didn't lose to Tiberi., but otherwise...
     
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    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Duran v Kirkland Laing
     
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    Lewis getting knocked out by Rahman.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah you can consider that a loss as that was a clear robbery no debate.
     
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    Jose Napoles losing to Billy Backus
     
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    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Almost all of them.
     
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    Wlad losing to Brewster.
     
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    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh man ... is the color line a fair answer? Just, all of them. Lang has losses, Gans got losses, Norfolk, Panama, Godfrey you name it, to dudes they should have beaten.

    Dempsey and John Lester probably another good one

    Everyone Wilder beat up! I'm just playing. Wilder was pretty good and hugely underrated.

    Johnson to Willard seem obvious.
     
  12. Smoochie

    Smoochie G.R.E.B G.O.A.T Full Member

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    McCall wasn't exactly an ATG either lmao

    Alì late career losses btw
     
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    Just rewatched to see if I still thought it was that bad a robbery, and it was actually worse. Had forgotten about that BS points deduction. Too much money on Toney for him to be allowed to lose in Atlantic City, perhaps. Absolute joke in any case.
     
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    Harry Greb losing to a 14lbs lighter Soldier Bartfield.

    Holman Williams losing half a dozen times to Cocoa Kid.

    Many of Fritzi Zivic's 65 losses were during his prime to none ATGs.
     
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    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Related to the fighters from the 1940s and earlier, a lot of them fought so many times a year that occasional upsets like these happened because the greats just couldn't be at their best every time.
     
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