Better resume Ali vs Mayweather

LOL

 

Ali. Not even close

 

Yeah, Ali is clearly both the greater fighter and has the better resume. It's not even close.

Without any accusations of ducking or cherry picking, almost all of the best names on Floyd's resume have something wrong with them. Oscar was old, so was Mosely and so was Pacquiao. Canelo was extremely young. That's four of his top 5 wins. Corrales, Marquez, Cotto and Castillo are probably Floyd's best wins over prime fighters, and they've got nothing on Ali's wins over Frazier, Liston, Foreman and Norton.

The only potential argument is the 50-0, which imo, is a really shitty argument. I'll take wins over a third of the top 10 ATG heavyweights over being undefeated any day of the week, not to mention Ali is the only man to win the lineal heavyweight title 3 times.

Man, I never thought I'd see the day where Ali is getting underrated.

 

What can be said in Mayweather favor is that Ali had a number of close fights which you could argue he lost (Shavers/Young/Norton 3)

With Mayweather you could maybe argue Castillo at a push. And I think that was less controversial that Ali's.

 

Ali was past his prime for those fights though and all those fighters were at their peak some felt Mayweather lost to Maidana aswell.

I just think Ali has much more impressive stand out wins to Mayweather nothing on Mayweather's resume can compare to stopping Liston or Foreman.

Ali has 2 wins against top 10 Heavyweights of all time in Foreman, Frazier, and possibly Liston could sneak into the top 10 aswell.

Then you have wins over Patterson, Norton, who are probably amongst the top 20 Heavyweights of all time well....Norton maybe just outside top 20 but regardless there's alot of quality.

Plus Ali was in the best Heavyweight era of all time and proved himself as the best of his era which is very significant aswell.

Ali never cherrypicked any fight and fought all comers whilst Mayweather has very good wins he did pick and choose when to fight them.

 

I thought Maidana edged him in their 1st fight as well.

 

You know that AI scoring they do ? To count the punches ? It actually had Maidana landed more punches overall. Whilst I don't see a huge problem with Mayweather maybe edging the fight.

But if that fight wasn't in Mayweather's backyard would he win a decision against the aggressor who landed more power punches ? Debatable.

But in fairness to Mayweather he did give rematches in his controversial decisions.

 

Ali by a huge margin.

 

love fraud but it's Alì and it's not close lmao

 

The only person who thinks has a better resume than Muhammad Ali is Floyd Mayweather...

 

I'll argue devils advocate just to keep this thread interesting (please don't lynch me). The fighters Floyd beat P4P were better then the fighter Ali beat because lighter skilled fighters tend to be better then heavier fighters and skill wise I would say someone like Oscar, Miguel, or Pacquiao are better skillwise then fighters like Foreman or Frazier who were one dimensional (though obviously very good at what they did). Floyd also dominated his competition hardly losing a round while Ali had some competitive and close fights and also lost to both Frazier and Norton pretty clearly and never decisively beat Norton who while a good fighter I don't think was ever a great fighter. Also by my count, Floyd has more good wins then Ali I counted 26 for Ali while Floyd had 33 (though that can be disputed). Finally Floyd had success in multiple weight classes and fought many fighters who were bigger then him while Ali only fought in one and a good chunk of his wins were fighters smaller then him.

 

Mayweather. No excuses needed about being past prime for half of his career either. More hof’ers beaten, more lineal titles, more everything except loses and excuses. Mayweather toyed with his heir apparent (Canelo) and Ali looked like a corpse for his version (Holmes). Mayweather also widely beat a top twenty ATG who was pfp 1 not counting Floyd whereas Ali neither beat a top 20 ATG nor a top pfp fighter.

 

A near 4 year exile that most, Ali included, suspected could have lasted forever is a valid reason for a fighter being passed it.

Even if you include Pacquiao and Canelo, Ali has more overall wins against Hall of Famers (11 to Floyd's 9). Floyd has only beaten more individual Hall of Famers, but Ali has more wins over them, overall.

Ali has more wins over top 10 ranked fighters.

Ali had already done it with Foreman, who was coming off of destructive wins against Frazier and Norton. Canelo was coming off beating the shell of Mosley and winning a disputed decision vs Trout. Not to mention, Ali was almost 39 and had clear signs of Parkinsons' disease against a prime Holmes. Floyd was considering fighting Conor McGregor at that point in his life.

An injured and more gunshy Pacquiao who did not perform anything like his pre Marquez KO self did (and not because of anything Floyd did in the ring). Besides, even a healthy version of a 36 year old Pac wouldn't have been near a top 5 P4P list in the early-mid 70's with prime Duran, Monzon, Canto, Foster, Arguello and Cervantes around. He would have probably been out of the top 10 altogether in the mid 60's.