Michael Gerard "Kid Dynamite" Tyson vs. Oleg Alexandrovich "Big O" Maskaev, 6/21/2003 (in an AU)

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"Kid Dynamite" or "Big O"?

  1. Tyson on points

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  2. Tyson by stoppage

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  3. Draw

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  4. Maskaev on points

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  5. Maskaev by stoppage

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Many mightn't know or remember this, but before Mike Tyson suffered the second of his three career upset KO losses (Lennox Lewis was a firm favorite at the bookies) at Daniel Peter "The Brixton Bomber" Williams' hands, he was originally scheduled to have faced the Russian glass cannon.

    Not just rumored or in talks; the ink was dry. Deal was, after smashing Clifford "The Black Rhino" Etienne in under a minute, Tyson had to win three more fights to secure a rematch with Lewis. The first was to be Maskaev (on the Lewis vs. Vitali Klitschko - originally Lewis vs. Kirk Johnson - undercard), and we will now never know who the second and third would've been.

    Don King - as is a common refrain over his several decade reign of terror - got his grimy fingers in the mix, and Tyson vs. Maskaev dissolved under the weight of contractual litigation by the crook with the lightning-struck hairdo. Tyson was ultimately shelved for 1½ years before inviting Danny Williams across the pond in the summer of 2004 - with disastrous results.

    What if he had, however, faced Maskaev a year before? And, assuming he won, what would the HW boxing landscape look like then in the middle aughts? If you subtract Don King from this equation, it's easy to plot a course for Tyson of staying active, defeating Maskaev and two more chinny opponents in quick succession to round out 2003 - and being available (and on a marketable four win streak) for a rematch with Lewis. Remember, retirement decisions were not made by The Lion immediately after his victory over Klitschko. He waited several months, until February of 2004. What he truly wanted was another payday the likes of which only Tyson as a dance partner could provide, before calling it quits. Contractual disputes and legal troubles eliminated Tyson from action long enough for Lewis to decide to leave well enough alone. He was never mulling over the VK rematch - he wanted the much higher reward and lower risk Tyson rematch...and it's hard to blame him. His purse against Vitali was less than half of what he made against Mike.

    Maskaev, of course, could have upset the apple cart and hastened Lewis' decision the very night they were all supposed to share a card. He was as immensely powerful as he was fragile, and this is a weathered version of Tyson we're talking about. Oleg, on the night they were supposed to meet, was 3-3 in his last six outings - and had been stopped thrice (by Kirk Johnson, Lance Whitaker, and Corey Sanders). The ornery Kazakh also packed a mighty wallop, however, and bore identical dimensions to Danny Williams - as it happens, coincidentally his own final professional opponent many years later - both standing 6'3" with 79" reach. Is it unthinkable that he could have sprung the upset heralding the beginning of Tyson's end thirteen months before Williams did? Of course, it would have been a fresher Tyson not as far removed from the quick destruction of Etienne.
     
  2. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maskajew, easlie..very simple form me
     
  3. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Oleg probably would have won his city council election in West Sacramento had he got this fight and won it.

    Maskaev late TKO/points. Mike had no balance, no pop, no movement, no footwork, and no speed and was just a one shot slugger in the early 2000s. It seemed like after his back was obliterated not only could Tyson not get low for his head movement any more, but he could tenuously bend his knees as consistently as before and his stance heightened when he threw and would frequently look imprecise and off balance to me.

    Mike was really bad by 2003, which made me think how ridiculous his recent exhibitions/"fights" have been. Oleg would be too big and too strong and I doubt Mike would even get many shots off but Mike could land a Botha/Etienne/Golota punch I suppose
     
  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maskaev should win by late TKO against a very faded version of Tyson but Maskaev also had a glass chin and has been stopped early quite a few times in his career.

    Based on the current form of Tyson you'd make Masakev a favourite but by no means a certainty when Maskaev has a very suspect chin.
     
  5. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson whilst behind on the cards.
     
  6. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    Even 2003 version of Tyson might have KO'd in 1 Masksaev who had genuinely glass jaw and was recently knocked out cold by Kirk Johnson, Whitaker and even T-Rex Sanders.

    Had Maskaev survived the early rounds, his chances would have increased significantly
     
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