Fighters who copied their idols but ended up looking different than them

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  1. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought of making this thread after looking at Michael Carbajal,he modeled himself after Duran but didn't had those good ol' parries,slowly became one paced over time unlike Duran who stayed fresh,and his defense wasn't exactly that good,his power also works a bit different than Duran,being more of a power puncher than a volume accurate puncher.
     
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  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sharkey and Dempsey.
     
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  3. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    James Toney claims he emulated Ezzard Charles and looked up to him a lot but while I do see some similarities I think the differences are pretty high between their styles. Maybe Ali and Holmes as well though they are more similarities between the two at least to my eye but enough differences as well.
     
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  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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  5. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    I seem to remember Floyd saying he was an avid fan of Aaron Pryor as a kid and that he based a fair amount of his style off of him. I guess you can kind of see it if you squint but not much.
    Shakur Stevenson very clearly tries to emulate Pernell Whitaker and does a good job but isn't as offensive as Pernell and doesn't have his power either.
    Most Mexicans champs since Chavez burst onto the scene have stolen moves from Chavez.
     
  6. mhudson

    mhudson Active Member Full Member

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    Barrera idolised Salvador Sanchez. While Barrera's style evolved and changed through his career, and he did show glimpses of Sanchez-style counterpunching in fights, it isn't how he is generally remembered. Most people would probably associate him more closely with Chavez than Sanchez in terms of fighting style.
     
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  7. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roman Gonzalez trained with his mentor fellow countryman Alexis Arguello and you can see some similarities in his style but also some notable differences as well. Chocolatito had a swarming, high workrate style compared to Arguello's more patient methodical approach.
     
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  8. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Larry Holmes, although he mixed Ali with some Foreman guard manipulation.
     
  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    “Foreman” guard manipulation? That stuff has been around since the 1800s… Larry had tons of boxing guys around him to teach him - I doubt he was inspired by Foreman to do so if that was the implication?
     
  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Jeff Fenech tried to be like Duran and fell short of him with respect - Qawi wanted to fight like Ali - Tyson Fury emulated Hamed, they’ve definitely got the same herky jerky movement… but not much else, today even less so as he’s sort of leaned into fighting that weird mauling way of his.
     
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  11. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was more to say that he didn't copy everything from Ali. He had his own style, influenced to a high degree by Ali, but he took other things from other boxers. Foreman just first came to mind as he was fighting in the similar era.
     
  12. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Toney looked more like Moore,I agreed
     
  13. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fenech did a better job on emulating Duran than Carbajal,but I kind of understood your point,he lacked that jab,at times his defense may be a bit lacking and overall skills levels he was more of the early Duran.
     
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  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    He squared up on the inside, Duran would never leave himself open for uppercuts the way Jeff did, Duran would get his head into the chest, Jeff also didn’t use his hips when he punched and couldn’t really “box” the way Duran did, he took an aspect of Durans style made it his entire game and still fell short… now, I do think Fenech is a great, a guy who could beat a lot of ones we’d call “ATG’s” namely Salvador Sanchez would be a very close fight but JF propped himself up a lot on mindset and physicality.
     
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  15. Rohid61

    Rohid61 New Member Full Member

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    According to this article James Toney actually patterned himself after Sugar Ray Robinson and Archie Moore:
    James Toney could have said at some other point that it was Ezzard Charles. There is anyway overlap between the styles of Sugar Ray Robinson and Ezzard Charles. However, on the shoulder roll James Toney claims it came from Jersey Joe Walcott and Ezzard Charles:
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    James Toney did also look like Jersey Joe Walcott with his erratic movement:
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