Will Moses Itauma surpass Mike Tyson?

I doubt it, and there is no need for him to chase that record, he has plenty of time and if he makes too much of a leap too soon, he could lose...

 

Premature ejaculator thread.

Itauma has beaten precisely nobody with a pulse.

 

hold up — Tyson had a pretty iron chin. It took an extended one-sided beating to get him out of there. Few men would stand up to the kind of beating Douglas was giving Tyson for 10 rounds.

and Holyfield? He was so juiced there his blood was probably 50% test, and he used a triple combo of frustration, fatigue, and grinding down to get Tyson out.

Lewis? Ok, Lewis was a big puncher, and was just teeing off on Tyson almost at will after a few rounds. Nobody is going to survive that.

 

And Ituama? Waaaay too early to judge. He seems to have a ton of promise, but we need to see a lot more. Definitely seems like he has the same combo of speed and power as Tyson, but how does he do in the face of adversity? How’s his chin? How’s he react when hurt? How can he adapt? What happens when he gets in there with a dude with an iron chin?

 

McKean has some good journeymen on his resume and gave Hrgovic a bit of a fight

 

Hes out of time. Itauma´s only hope is that Pulev gives him a shot, and then he can pretend that the regular WBA belt is the real deal.
Or maybe the Huni fight will come together, and then they will pretend that the proposed WBO interim belt is an actual championship. I mean, Robert Guerrero did that, so I wouldn't be surprised.

 

So you’re arguing that Tyson wasn’t that good so Itauma has a chance to be better than the lowered bar, which pretty much takes away the accomplishment if he does. If you really thought highly of Itauma, you wouldn’t have to lower the bar.

I like Itauma but, your argument gives me pause.

 

To put the absurdity of that disparity into context...
Usyk gave up around 6" in height and 7" in reach to Fury and won clearly.

Having said that... Size is only part of what makes a fighter competitive - a smaller guy ranked that highly has to have an ability to overcome size disparities. Equally, a lower top ten guy who's incredibly tall and long has to have limitations to not be ranked higher.

The height and reach are just two factors - how they use those are two, IMHO, more important factors.

 

Frankly it's hard to see how Itauma could "surpass" Tyson unless you're talking sheer longevity.

Itauma's 20 years old with an 11-0 record, admittedly many impressive KOs among them.

Before Tyson turned 21 he had a 30-0 record, all but 3 of his wins by KO, and he owned the WBA and WBC belts (and would pick up the IBF belt at age 21).

Itauma shows tremendous promise and I look forward to a brilliant career there.

So, could Itauma become the "new" Mike Tyson? Sure, but only convincingly so if he fights (and KOs opponents) a lot more frequently. Could he "surpass" Tyson? Maybe.... if he fights undefeated into his 40s.....

 

I’ve been assuming Pulev will get offered cashout money to fight Ituama. And Ituama would demolish Pulev at this point.

 

If Itauma an his handlers were really serious about getting Tysons record, they should really have matched him up a lot better an faster.Yeah he still only 20 but he’s been a pro for like 2years now an the only trialhorse names on his resume that anyone has even heard of is 58 year old Wach an Mckean who’s only known for almost going the distance with Hrgovic. Tyson had 28 fights by the time he got his title shot an the was beating guys like Tillis, Ferguson, Green, Frazier an Ribalta. Yeah no world beaters there but all of them were a level above the 11 tomato cans that Itauma has faced in the 2years he’s been pro.

 

Itauma has not won anything.

 

No need for Moses to concern himself beating Tyson’s “record,” as he has nearly 2 years to beat the actual record.