James J Braddock vs James ‘Bonecrusher’ Smith primes

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Devon, Feb 13, 2025.


Who wins?

  1. Braddock KO/TKO

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  2. Braddock PTS

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  3. Smith KO/TKO

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  4. Smith PTS

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  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who wins this matchup?
     
  2. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Braddock by decision.

    Recent discussion seems to indicate that Bonecrusher is going to join Ron Lyle as far as being on too high a pedestal around here. Dude was an absolute journeyman.
     
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  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He did hold the WBA heavyweight championship
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Braddock was an actual journeyman though until very late in his career when he got a few notable wins.
     
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  5. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    Yup, he was called The Cinderella Man for a reason.
     
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  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You don't have to put Bonecrusher on too high a pedestal to contend he would beat Braddock. All other things being equal (preparation and focus) and Smith stops him mid to late.
     
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  7. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Which showed that the raw materials were always there, just like someone else who often gets dissed here, Walcott.

    IMO Braddock is much closer to elite status than Smith although neither was an ATG.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that's a bit different though Baer didn't seem to take the Braddock fight that seriously. And Braddock took his chance and rightly won full credit to him.

    But i don't think Braddock rates that highly though on a H2H basis and his career outside of the Baer fight is not that memorable.

    Walcott on the other hand had numerous notable wins vs great fighters and H2H at his best he rates quite highly and his skill level is at a far superior level to Braddock.
     
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  9. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree Walcott was better than Braddock. I just go against the conventional wisdom here that Braddock was a nonentity. And I was never enamored with Bonecrusher either in real time or now.

    I’ve pointed out before that this place has an affinity for big punchers and tends to overrate them.
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah big punchers always get overrated it's because there's nothing more exciting than Heavyweight KOs.

    Bonecrusher is a bit of a strange one he couldn't get rid of Marvis Frazier despite swarming all over him in 1st round and even knocking him down late on.

    But then he can stop the likes of Weaver, Witherspoon, Bruno.

    I think Bonecrusher was very limited pretty much on a similar level to Baer in regards to how wild and unimpressive on film they can look.

    Although I think Baer is a considerably harder puncher in regards to single punch power.
     
  11. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He beat a very bad version of Tim tho to win it.
    Bit like Ali Spinks 1 ..
     
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  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I’m undecided. Braddock was a decent boxer with a solid chin and the ability to go 15 rounds. And he DID win the title by surviving and outpointing max baer.
     
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