Proof Calzaghe is a coward

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by onourway, Aug 20, 2008.


  1. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    thunder don't waste your time with TFFP he's got a serious kung-fu grip on the nutsack of Joe(usually it's only a soft cupping)How can you define logic to a guy that thinks Joe Calzaghe is the greatest fighter in the past 25 years? It's not possible
    To be fair he can be somewhat rational when on anything but the said topic of Joe
     
  2. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Actualli I think Roy was the greatest fighter in the last 25 years or maybe 20 cu there was a Duran,a Hearns,a Leonard but Roy is the best in last 20.Calzaghe fought mostly bums and a few good guys,not enough.
     
  3. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    No, i think Calzaghe is the greatest of the last 2.5 years
     
  4. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Nope that would be a guy named Manny Pacquaio
     
  5. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    this thread is proof this forum is obsessed with the man
     
  6. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    I have already had this debate with TFFP. Pacquiao has been better over last 2.5 years, hence the reason he became p4p#1 and Calzaghe didn't, despite Calzaghe having far more time to prove his credentials. Look at standard of opposition, number of fights, and quality of performances. Pacquiao definitely edges Calzaghe IMO.
     
  7. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Exactly,even a blind man could see it,KOing Mario Veit isn't the same KOing Erik Morales
     
  8. tonyej

    tonyej New Member Full Member

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    I havn't read all the comments on this thread but lets make one fact clear -Joe beats Jones on November 8th without a doubt !
     
  9. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Calzaghe last 2.5 years: 5 fights, 5 wins, 1 stoppage

    UD12 Jeff Lacy
    (very good performance v decent short-term alphabet champ)

    UD12 Sakio Bika
    (ok performance v decent challenger)

    TKO3 Peter Manfredo Jr
    (a joke.)

    UD12 Mikkel Kessler
    (career-best performance v very good short-term alphabet champ)

    SD12 Bernard Hopkins
    (unimpressive performance by Calzaghe. Edged a split decision on workrate alone)




    Pacquiao last 2.5 years: 7 fights, 7 wins, 4 stoppages

    TKO10 Erik Morales
    (rematch with the man who beat him. Became 1st man to stop HOFer Erik Morales

    UD12 Oscar Larios
    (equates with Calzaghe-Bika, ok performance v decent challenger)

    KO3 Erik Morales
    (wins series 2-1 by stopping Morales again. For the first time, Morales doesn't look like his old self though)

    KO8 Jorge Solis
    (ok performance v decent challenger)

    UD12 Marco Antonio Barrera
    (beats HOFer Barrera for the 2nd time with easy points win)

    SD12 Juan Manuel Marquez
    (edges a tight decision over the #3 p4p fighter in a brilliant fight)

    TKO9 David Diaz
    (wins world title at 4th weight with a masterclass and brilliant KO finish)





    Pacquiao has clearly been better over the last 2.5 years- that's why he's #1 and Calzaghe is #2 :patsch

    DON'T say Morales & Barrera were washed-up - Hopkins??
    (Morales was anything but washed-up in his 2nd fight with Pac, and Barrera had floored JMM and pushed him all the way in his previous fight - there is NO WAY Morales at 29-30 and Barrera at 33 were any more washed-up than a 43-yr-old man)

    DON'T say the Marquez decision was controversial - Hopkins?? SD.
    (and even then, Pac was amazing to have such a close fight with JMM, who is in great condition and is the #3 p4p. It was clear in the last rounds v Joe Cal, Hopkins no longer had the stamina to fight 12 rounds)


    Juan Manuel Marquez and Erik Morales are a ****ing damn sight better opposition than Jeff Lacy or Mikkel Kessler, and Pac never fought a Manfredo in this period.

    It's PACQUIAO.
     
  10. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    75% of the LHW division would beat this Roy
     
  11. champianboxer

    champianboxer Mr Boingo Full Member

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    anybody that gets in that ring has balls
     
  12. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Laila Ali??
     
  13. champianboxer

    champianboxer Mr Boingo Full Member

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    ok, they got guts, courage
     
  14. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    I don't agree. Kessler is a better win than any of them, he was an undefeated unified champion who was at his prime or close enough - and it was a top performance from Calzaghe. We can't say that about Pacquiao's best win against a close prime opponent in Marquez, which was questionable - in other words he lost

    The others were old men, just as much as Hopkins. Except they had far more wars than Hopkins, and Hopkins was in better form with wins over Tarver and Wright. Calzaghe also stepped up a weight. "The work-rate point" as it should be known, is moot. Calzaghe made him tired. He had the stamina for 12 against Tarver/Wright who are world class in their own right, and was on top late

    The rest cancel each other
     
  15. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Kessler a better win than Erik Morales or JMM?You are a blind nuthugger my man