Chisora Greater than Wilder?

Chisora has a better resume than Wilder.

 

I don’t understand why your only picking a certain timeline before they both won belts and when klitschko was around.

after winning belts, I don’t think Whyte is better than Ortiz, especially as had just been ko’d by a 40yr old pov. Ortiz was undefeated and at his peak.

wilder was a top win for fury only if you rate wilder and his career.

 

I just said that Wilder & Fury were a part of Klitschko era. You considered it hating for some reason.

 

I’m not sure if Whyte has ever been ranked higher than Ortiz (or not by much anyway), so not sure where you are getting your rankings from again. Are they your own personal ones again?

only British hype ranked whyte high.

who said Zhang is at his peak? We don’t know when his peak is, has he reached it yet? He is still coming up….we know wilder is shot and finished though.

 

So in the real world, he’s not ranked. Just in your mind.

why do you keep saying rankings are subjective to dismiss them?
Rankings are published as official documentation and the industry uses them to run on. They are as official to boxing as the law is to a country.

the subjective part is your personal ranking, which nobody but yourself cares about. It’s irrelevant

 

Ok

 

Chisora winning quite clearly on the poll.

Nice to know a lot of people aren't falling for Wilder's BS anymore.

 

Because they are subjective. Different organizations have different ratings. More importantly they are often not a good gauge of how good a win is.

Wilder was highly rated going into the Parker fight by most organizations and favored to win. But people are dismissing the win on the basis of him being shot despite a high rating and being favored.

If ratings were infallible Parker beating him would be a huge win.

 

Lo and behold the WBA has Moses Itauma listed in their top 10 at number 5 seems I'm not the only one to think he could be top 10

 

They are official though!
It is not one person sat in their bedroom making a ranking. Once it is official it is no longer subjective. This is licensed professional boxing, where there are a limited number of official organisations (some world ones, one British etc)

This is the difference between fans and people who are in the sport and now I’m understanding the difficulties many fans have. It’s due to misunderstanding the structure and rules etc of licenced boxing. It’s not just a fight!
(Kind of like that usyk/dubois low blow, fans said it wasn’t low because it didn’t hit privates, but the ref called it low therefore it is low. He called it low because anything below the navel is low - even hitting in the knee)

People in the sport must follow the rules and official body (not a fan in his bedroom).

Just like different countries have different laws, once the law is in place it is now a law. A judge or jury make a decision and it is official and no longer subjective.
A decision win in boxing is dictated by judges, once they decide the winner it is no longer subjective.
A ko is generally decided by a ref, once he makes this decision it is no longer subjective.
Different judges and different refs make different decisions, but they are allocated representation for the given organisation.

If you refuse to accept the official governing bodies of something, you can apply this to everything in life. Why pass your driving test? Why wear clothes? Why brush your teeth? Who said the number 12 comes after 11? Why speak English? Make up your own language.

going onto wilder and parker, a ranking is based on what you’ve done recently, not if you are a favourite or not. Both were ranked top 10 I think.
The big thing about that fight was seeing what wilder had left, we found out it wasn’t much.
Going into the fight I thought Parker would take it, but official rankings are based on what you’ve done recently achieve or fail to, not what they think of you.
it’s often a lower ranked fighter beats a higher ranked fighter, it’s how people move up rankings.

 

Ok, he is taking the wba route, fine with that.
He is now officially a top 10 ranked fighter.
because wba said, not you.

 

So, as I said, even if he was ranked higher, it wasn’t by much.