Parker is a hypejob that hasn’t improved

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Can I box, Feb 17, 2025.


  1. rinsj

    rinsj Active Member Full Member

    767
    333
    May 19, 2007
    How exactly was the Zhang win "legit"? Big Bang was heavier than ever, a 291.5 lb slug, and still managed to catch and drop him twice. For the record, I scored it a Draw. A lighter, better-conditioned Zhang would have stopped him.
     
    Mark Anthony likes this.
  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,328
    14,344
    Jan 13, 2021
    Zhang lost, outside of the two knockdowns he threw virtually nothing and Zhang always having shown stamina issues suggest Parker has a good chance at beating any version
     
  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

    14,736
    18,932
    Sep 5, 2016
    So why didn't Zhang come in lighter and better conditioned then?
     
  4. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

    14,736
    18,932
    Sep 5, 2016
    I'm not downplaying Dubois's chances at all. I did that in the Joshua fight and was proved a fool. Dubois is a legit guy on a tremendous run of form, and if he beats Parker I wouldn't be the least surprised. But I also wouldn't be surprised if Parker won either. I think of any of Dubois's recent opponents Parker might prove the most stylistically capable.
     
    Kiwi Fish and Can I box like this.
  5. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

    43,944
    31,329
    Apr 17, 2011
    Coulda, shoulda, woulda. But he didn´t. Parker happened to get caught twice, and got up both times. In another fight Parker would likely not get knocked down at all.
    I recently re-watched Parkers two fights with Chisora, and it´s funny how Parker got dropped in the first fight, but himself scored 3 knockdowns in the rematch. So there are no guarantees in this sport.
     
  6. Can I box

    Can I box Active Member banned Full Member

    705
    773
    Jun 20, 2019
    Wilder is an unconventional fighter that relied on his intangibles such as his borderline delusional confidence to be at his best so once his bubble was burst by Fury he was never the same. His KO of Helenius was the aligning of the stars with the boxing gods paying tribute to him with one last trademark knockout to signal the end of the Bronze Bomber. Parker himself admitted Wilder wasn’t the same on this Ring podcast I just watched 30 minutes ago.

    On Zhang, he’s the enigma that offers the good, the bad and the ugly. He’s skillful and powerful enough to take Parker but he lacked the gas tank to finish the job so it was almost a default win for Parker stylistically rather than Parker being out of this world.
     
  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,840
    3,616
    Jul 31, 2021
    You have an interesting habit in this thread of dismissing people's achievements as "the aligning of the stars" as if skills has nothing to do with it.

    If Parker beats Dubios will it only be because of stars and where they line up? Do I need to consult the tarot cards and tea cups too?
     
    Kiwi Fish likes this.
  8. Can I box

    Can I box Active Member banned Full Member

    705
    773
    Jun 20, 2019
    Stars aligning comes in different forms. Wilder’s one was getting the early knockout before we could see that he’s not the same anymore as it ended in round 1 from an instinctive shot as Helenius got too excited.

    Parker’s one would be he’s got everything together now and is at his mental peak while Dubois doesn’t have the same edge he had vs Joshua as the fear factor isn’t there. He said himself he rates AJ higher.

    Parker has maintained his level for me unlike Wilder who’s never been the same after Fury so it’s different.
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2025
  9. Simon Says

    Simon Says Member Full Member

    402
    438
    Jan 21, 2025
    Parker has been one of the most boring boxers of the era in my opinion. Never entertaining and always stinks it up. Hasn't got one notable KO and never seems to put anybody down for a count that's not ancient or generally rubbish.

    Fury was discredited for facing Wilder three times and Parker is being hyped up for beating a shot Wilder who didn't throw any punches, still couldn't drop him despite looking like a dead man walking.

    Parker and his fanboys are in for a rude awakening on Saturday but then again there will be an excuse as there always is with Parker. Concussed from a headclash, bad referee, bedridden fight week.... what's next

    After he's been knocked out I hope that's the end of him because I don't really want to have to watch him again
     
    Can I box likes this.
  10. rinsj

    rinsj Active Member Full Member

    767
    333
    May 19, 2007
    You're correct. It was Zhang's fault. I was saying had Zhang been a good deal lighter (see both Joyce fights) he would have had Parker out of there too. I wasn't making excuses for him. Parker barely squeaked by Zhang. A Draw would have been fair. I wouldn't bestow too many accolades upon Parker for "defeating" a career-heavy, out-of-condition Zhang. Parker already got KO'd by Joyce who Zhang in good condition (for him) stopped both times. Zhang was better conditioned than the Parker fight when he faced Wilder and stopped him too. Whereas the best Parker could do was get a decision victory over Wilder. Be that as it may, Daniel Dubois by massacre this weekend.
     
    Can I box likes this.
  11. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

    43,944
    31,329
    Apr 17, 2011
    Right. Well, if you believe that then good for you.

    And if you are so confident in your analysis, then go ahead and make a big bet on Dubois.
     
    Kiwi Casual and MaccaveliMacc like this.
  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,167
    2,206
    Oct 9, 2022
    I wonder whether the 250 pro rounds have taken a toll on Parker's chin. In his last eight fights (all under Andy Lee) he's been down against Chisora, KO'd by Joyce and down twice against Zhang. These were (probably not coincidentally) his best opponents over this period. And his wins over Chisora 1 and Zhang were contested/close/controversial. He still hasn't stopped anyone of any note since teaming up with Lee.
     
    Can I box likes this.
  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,167
    2,206
    Oct 9, 2022
    Parker's record against HW's with British passports:

    T. Fury (never fought, in 2018 Parker said Fury was No.1 at HW)

    Joshua (meek UD loss, surrendered his 0, came for a paycheck)

    Whyte (meek UD loss, blundered a very winnable fight)

    Joyce (brutal KO loss, pressured, outworked and ground down)

    He decisioned Chisora x2 (first fight controversial), H. Fury (arguably controversial) and Massey (not a top cruiser).
     
  14. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,815
    9,932
    Oct 29, 2012
    He beat a couple of contenders to face a guy who himself is just another contender, IBF belt or not. Usually how it works up top.
     
    Kiwi Fish and Kiwi Casual like this.
  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

    38,686
    15,216
    Jul 25, 2014
    He’s not very good
     
    Mark Anthony likes this.