FOTC Ali vs 1986 Mike Tyson

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Who wins?

  1. Ali

    35 vote(s)
    68.6%
  2. Tyson

    16 vote(s)
    31.4%
  1. PolishAssasin

    PolishAssasin Member Full Member

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    Who wins and how?
     
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  2. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    Ali by UD. Tyson lacked big fight experience in 1986.
     
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  3. CharlieFirpo85

    CharlieFirpo85 Member Full Member

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    In a 12 rounder i lean towards Tyson. Prime Tyson surpasses prime Ali in h2h competitiveness and is also a bad matchup stylewise for an Ali who can no longer rely on the footwork he had in the past. But it's still like a ~60-40
     
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    Actually a good point. But Tyson still has plenty of ability to control the fight.
     
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    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    Fair point. But I think Ali's ring savvy would give him the edge.
     
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  6. CharlieFirpo85

    CharlieFirpo85 Member Full Member

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    That is very possible. But also a Norton-like scenario. Young Tyson had a very formidable work rate and stamina. Could be enough to overwhelm Ali like Frazier and Norton did. + Imo Tyson would make Ali miss more often than Frazier did.
     
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  7. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    That's a well thought point. And I also think that Tyson had a better/more versatile defence than Frazier.
     
  8. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Looking through my Dusty old Rose tinted glasses, I see Ali dancing and flicking the jab and befuddling Tyson for the early part of the fight, then gradually wearing Tyson down over the next several rounds into around the 10th or 11th round in which Ali scores a standing TKO.
     
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  9. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali all wrong for Mike. Tyson was all about his timing coming in. Boxers with the great jab and/or the lead right( see the Douglas fight )throws Mikes timing all off forcing him to reset. Also add in Ali tying up MIke on the inside. Fighters like Liston, Holmes, Ali all nightmare matchups for Mike.
     
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  10. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    Big fan of Tyson as a head to head fighter but I cannot see this fight any other way than you have just described...
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As Emanual Steward said,"If Tyson can't get a guy outta there inside 5 he's faced with a problem. Mikey ain't Ko'ing Ali..Tyson fades like a cheap chinese shirt in hot water and is on his back around the 12th round with a mangled face.
     
  12. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson destroys any version of Ali, let alone FOTC Ali, he KO's this version
     
  13. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson is KO'ing Ali
     
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    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson by KO
     
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  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You need to look some more. No version of Ali ever stands a chance of KO'ing Tyson, let alone FOTC Ali.
    Tyson destroys him, he wins by KO.