Is Martin Bakole overrated?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Redbeard7, Dec 14, 2024.


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Poll closed Dec 21, 2024.

  1. Yes

    28 vote(s)
    45.2%

  2. No

    34 vote(s)
    54.8%
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  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Look at the competition in 2018 though
    Joshua
    Parker
    Wilder
    Ruiz
    Kabayel
    Whyte
    Povetkin
    Miller
    Pulev
    Rivas
    Chisora

    H2H that's a pretty tough group and many were prime while Ortiz was probably in decline.
     
    Cojimar 1946, Dec 15, 2024
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  2. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And Ortiz was regarded as one of the more formidable names on that list, for years before and after.

    Anderson was perhaps a fringe top 10 guy for a year or so (heavily based on outpointing Martin, who a "well into decline" Ortiz had KO'd) before getting destroyed by a potential future title challenger who'd already lost to a former cruiserweight contender.

    TBRB had Ortiz 3rd in November 2017 and 4th a year later, 6th as late as July 2021. PBO had him 4th at his zenith and 10th when they stopped ranking fighters in May 2022. I've already quoted Ring.
     
    Redbeard7, Dec 16, 2024
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  3. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    He's an enigma wrapped in mystery and encased in blubber.
     
    FrankinDallas, Dec 16, 2024
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  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He looked great destroying Anderson but Hunter made him look real bad. Need to see more of him to know. I’ll lean overrated but he does have all the tools
     
    The Long Count, Dec 16, 2024
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  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No he's not overrated, I don't think anyone is tapping him as the next world champion or the next in line after Usyk and Fury are gone (at least I haven't seen that). He's simply in the mix of a HW division that is in flux.
     
    northpaw, Dec 17, 2024
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  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I bet someone will make him gas and look bad soon.
     
    Babality, Dec 17, 2024
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  7. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Miller would be a good fight for him. He's around that level imo.
     
    Bigcheese, Dec 17, 2024
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  8. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. I haven’t seen him being rated that highly by anyone really. Most people thought Anderson was going to beat him.
     
    ForemanJab, Dec 17, 2024
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  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Parker wins, will the dominant narrative be that Bakole lost because he was out of condition and jet-lagged on 48 hours notice?
     
    Redbeard7, Feb 21, 2025
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  10. Simon Says

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    Your opinion is a load of shite lol
     
    Simon Says, Feb 21, 2025
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  11. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you really think Miller couldn't beat Jared Anderson?
     
    Bigcheese, Feb 21, 2025
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  12. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Not in the clinical way Bakole did.
     
    It's Ovah, Feb 21, 2025
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  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    If you go back to Hunter a fight that was 7 years ago to make a case that Bakole is "overrated" then you DKSAB

    Zhang & Bakole are the most avoided heavyweights to date.

    High risk Low reward and they are 280+ pound titans with massive coreys.

    Whilst all the low IQ boxing fans in the world think AJ is better than Bakole but he's not even half the man or fighter that Bakole is.

    Bakole & Parker on form are top fighters. If Bakole turns up half mast tomorrow Parker will outbox him for 12 rounds. If Parker turns up half mast Bakole will eat him. If both turn up it will be a cracking fight.
     
    miniq, Feb 21, 2025
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  14. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course it will. Parkers detractors will always have an excuse
     
    Kiwi Casual, Feb 21, 2025
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  15. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We'll see.
     
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