Deontay Wilder may get WBC interim title shot vs. Agit Kabayel.

Like I said, I’m not this invested in the people mentioned. It’s clear you have a lot of emotion/feelings for wilder in a negative manner, maybe you need to work on this.

1) I have witnessed you stretching the truth already, with calling an assault on a hooker a Dv case…and then claiming wilder threw down brezeales wife. Which your evidence did not support. So I’m trying to take your word on things but your credibility seems small.

2) I understand the dangers of Dv, ive spent most my working career in the cjs (no longer), at times dealing with offenders and victims of Dv. Hitting a hooker is not Dv. This is you stretching the truth again.

3) I don’t believe hitting your child turns you into a pos instantly. But I may have a controversial view that “incidents”, “wrong place,wrong time” events do occur and I don’t believe they turn you into a pos instantly.

4) Many of my generation were hit as children, the teachers hit children and although It’s not good, i wouldn’t label every teacher and parent who did this in history a pos.

5) I haven’t seen the report on the child incident, so as your credibility is low I shouldn’t take your word on it. However, even if true, as stated this is a moment of rage/red mist event, which seems a common trait especially amongst fighters and with the offences of wilder. It’s a sad common effect of the sport that punches to the head can affect your levels of aggression.

6) Brezeale- you do understand this was an ongoing beef, each point escalating. Neither brezeale nor wilder were innocent as both are involved in the ongoing beef with a lot of tit for tat. As stated, this incident was not spontaneous hatred for Brezeale, it was a follow up to a previous event, which followed an event before that etc. it’s called escalation.

7) I will reiterate my view in the sport, a person caught taking peds is worse than an aggressive incident at a press conference or event. This wasn’t a case of wilders team going and picking on the smallest guy for no reason (ala fury) it was a reaction to a previous incident and baiting from Brezeale.

look I’m honestly not that bothered if you have such emotion for the man, but I am fine with my views and don’t require “convincing” nor require your personal judgements which are clearly effected by your feelings about wilder.

 

Domestic violence is a pattern of abusive behavior in any relationship that is used by one partner to gain or maintain power and control over another intimate partner. again she was a hooker but they also knew each other, being a hooker does not mean that you cannot have domestic violence a job does not change the end result.

 

My personal judgement is that anyone who beats women and children are a POS full stop. there is no excuse for violence especially against the defenseless.. So you believe smashing his kids head into a car window is somehow okay? why is that because you like Wilder? that is some sad **** especially if you supposedly worked with DV survivors which with your blasé attitude towards DV I highly doubt you did, or if you did you never should of been in that position, as you clearly do not have the emotional capacity necessary to assist survivors. I literally linked you an article of the restraining order that mentions the assault/DV on his kid and specifically mentions what he did but apparently you didn't read it shocker... or you did and just put your head in the sand since you like Wilder so much.

 

The ignore button exists for a reason, my dude, just saying.

If you wrestle with pigs, the best you get is dirty.

 

Her relationship to him is what matters.

you said he assaulted a hooker, this statement gives an impression he assaulted a woman whose services he was paying for, to not have a relationship. This is not his partner and is not classed as Dv.

or are you saying he had a personal relationship with a woman whose services so happened to be a hooker?

FYI I’m not having an argument about it, I’m trying to understand your point of view.

 

You’re jumping to conclusions again sir as your emotions seem to be taking control.

I’m not aware of him smashing his kids head into a screen. I don’t follow his life like you do. YOU are claiming he has done this, along with several other things you’ve claimed which are clearly non factual and taken out of context.

you don’t need to believe me, what I’m trying to explain to your emotional self is that violence in fighters is a very sad historical pattern. I’m not excusing it, I’m calling it sad as a negative thing.
I think you will find that in actuality most professionals need to remove being emotional whilst still being empathetic but coming to an understanding of the surrounding issues. at present you are clearly too emotional to comprehend this (fyi I’ve never worked in victim support - your emotions are jumping to conclusions again, I worked on rehabilitating offenders-which often involves looking at the bigger picture and linking factors together, such as circumstances, situations which have created such behaviour and when to avoid , psychological reports-often not too positive with fighters etc. )

you sent several links, I read a couple, sorry I didn’t get the time, if I do, I will go back and read. Never buried my head in the sand about this stuff, I’m not the emotional one here.


Sorry, I do understand it’s a forum for tabloid level talk, so probably not the best place to expect rational discussion

 

Assuming usyk ducks kabayel and also influences wbo to not push for a mandatory against parker , the same way assumimg dubois will be kept away from fighting anybody but usyk options start to get limited and kabayel might indeed fight wilder .

Better option would be AJ but i think its too risky for AJ as he might loose such a fight .

 

Yeah you are right buddy I enjoy debating different views could you imagine if everybody thought the same it would be boring and we would learn nothing new on the board but I am done with his B.S. if you think beating children and women don't make you a POS then morally we are too separate. ( not you obviously)

 

You literally called my character into question because you were too lazy to research what you are talking about. Nah man Bubbles is right you are a waste of time and as much as you try to justify and claim beating women and children does not make you a POS it does... But Bubbles is right I'm done with you good luck with your Wilder circle jerk with Dubblechin.

 

No. It was all over the place when it happened. If you search this site, you can probably find it posted somewhere.

 

No, I called your emotions into question because 2 things you had said at that point were exaggerated at the least, or just plain incorrect (using your own “evidence”)

Calling someone a pos is not something I generally do, sorry that I don’t stoop to those levels.
Mike Tyson not only assaulted woman in a more severe manner, he raped one and was convicted of it.
His treatment of kids were that he sexually assaulted one (ask Teddy) and he threatened to eat a few more live on tv…I don’t even call Mike a pos.
On a side note, as explained, I’ve worked with all levels of criminal, murderers, rapists, extremists, thieves etc (even a serial killer) but I don’t call them a “pos” nor does anybody in the cjs like judges, police, etc no matter how despicable their acts may be.
I’m not changing that to please your emotions.

As for your article suggesting wilder deliberately smashed her son’s head into a car, There’s not much further info on it…not even a quote from Telli, his disgruntled ex.
The disgruntled ex is not really known as a trustworthy source of information.

 

I knew about the Dv with his partner, it was the Dv on a hooker that got me as that’s an oxymoron.

 

Are people really against this? The knock on Wilder for years has been that he wasn't matched with good opponents.

 

Hint-those People are against wilder personally.

It doesn’t really matter who he fights.