Furys 3rd win over Chisora is underrated

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Lineal champions repeatedly beating Chisora is becoming its own separate sport at this point.
     
  2. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Especially since he could have taken him out whenever he wanted
     
  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This comment is on target like a B-29 over Hiroshima,, it destroys the topic .. Nice job..
     
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  4. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These are all excuses for a fighter struggling vs a gate keeper

    It would be like Canelo struggling vs Rocky Fielding or something. Get lost with this lame rationalization of it
     
  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How did Usyk struggle vs such a bum? Isn't that crazy for someone many think is the best in the world and some say is the goat?
     
  6. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes lame excuses

    Canelo, Inoue and Crawford have never struggled vs a gatekeeper level opponent like Usyk did vs Chisora.

    Stop making the moving up in weight excuse.

    If any of those struggled vs a Chisora level fighter it would be heavily criticized but with Usyk people just turn a blind eye

    And then on top of it Fury gets no credit for completing dominating Chisora all 3 times
     
  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I refuse to believe you're actually being serious this is eirher you just wanting to argue or you're just trolling or for some reason the context is completely flying over your head and you somehow can't comprehend it.

    Why should a Heavyweight champion of the world get alot of credit for beating the same fringe contender 3 times who he's already beaten twice before convincingly ? How does that even make sense ? And why is Fury even defending the title against an unranked opponent who he's already beaten twice ?

    So not only are you actually defending it you want us to give Fury alot of credit for it ? Have you gone absolutely bonkers ?

    I wouldn't say Usyk "heavily struggled against Chisora" it wasn't his best night but he still won a pretty wide UD.

    Neither of the opponents you have mentioned have ever fought an opponent with a 40 pound weight advantage. If they fought a fighter 3 or 4 weightclasses bigger than them pressuring them all night long I'm sure they wouldn't have an easy night either.

    Again you somehow are not understanding the context and I really don't understand how you can't understand it ?

    Usyk was moving up in weight testing the waters in the division with his first real notable opponent at the weight. No one gives Usyk alot of credit for beating Chisora and no one makes out it was his best night so I don't know what you're talking about. It's a solid win nothing more nothing less because of the weight disadvantage and because Usyk at that time was an unknown quantity in the division facing his first notable opponent.

    Again how does that compare to a Heavyweight champion of the world who's supposed to be the best in the division defending the title against an unranked opponent and fighting him for the 3rd time ? When Chisora didn't deserve his shot, no one asked for the fight, Chisora was 1-3 in his last 4 fights.

    So again I ask how is that comparable and why should Fury get alot of credit for it ?
     
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  8. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury should get more credit for beating Chisora the 3rd time than he did. He dominated a guy who is now back in the top 10.

    Yes it was a light touch after Wilder and Whyte but still a nice feat that looks a lot better in hindsight

    As far as your ridiculous 40 pound weight argument this is the fallacy people make with Usyk

    Dubious beat Miller who was nearly 100 pounds heavier than him

    Is that comparable to Inoue beating Lawrence Okolie?

    Obviously not

    The more you move up the less weight matters because it's a lower percentage of your body weight

    Add the to the fact that heavyweights have significantly less skill and stamina and you get fighters like Holyfield and Usyk who become undisputed heavyweight champion by beating much bigger men

    That's why the whole "A good big man beats a good little man" arguments don't really apply to heavyweight.

    Obviously Inoue would have no chance vs Brian Norman

    Or Terence Crawford would have no chance vs Jai Opetatia

    This is where Usyk gets overrated a little
     
  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So Fury should get alot of credit for defending his title against an unranked fringe contender who was 1-3 in his last 4 fights who'd he'd already beaten twice before.

    But Usyk should be discredited for moving up in weight as a contender at that time and be discredited for winning a wide UD over his first real notable Heavyweight.

    Yeah I'm done with this conversation you're a numpty baffling how you can't understand the difference in context.
     
  10. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wouldn't call that a wide UD but yes to the rest of your question
     
  11. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chisora isn't a good win for "anyone" hes a good win for "everyone".
     
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  12. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Still laughing my ass of at anyone who thinks Fury beating Chisora for the 3rd time was something special.
     
  13. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So Fury dominating Chisora means nothing, because Chisora was a not ranked nothing but Usyk struggling vs Chisora who was a not ranked nothing means nothing

    Got it

    Haha this forum is so bias I love it
     
  14. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The bigger problem with Usyk v Chisora it is was the start of a tradition of Usyk losing a bunch of rounds at HW and people pretending he was dominant. It was Usyks HW debut and Chisoras fought many top fighters close. As long as Chisora doesn't actually win(wtf Wallin) its not a problem.
     
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  15. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Doesn't matter when Usyk beat Fury twice and would do so again if tubbo puts down the booze and pipe.