Teenage Beterbiev knocks out dude with a left hook

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Interesting how his right hand became his best weapon. He does seem to have a strong left hook. In the pro's, it seems more like he uses the threat of the left hook to land the big right.
     
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  2. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boom!
     
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  3. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who's the dude he's fighting? Artur has a bloodied nose, decent achievement.
     
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  4. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    no idea. Video didn't give a name.
     
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  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Probably tons of world level guys we will never know. Boxing is a brutal sport.
     
  6. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Short. Sharp. Accurate. Right on the chin.
     
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  7. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Impressive, Bivol’s chin must be top notch.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Remember there are many out there who have somehow managed to convince themselves that if Beterbiev and his fellow elite or P4P amateurs/future elite pros and future P4P pros from his region of the world had turned pro much earlier or at the same age many of their fellow elite and P4P pros from other parts of the world did they wouldn't have enjoyed the same success as them or accomplished way more than they did or have and are still doing today even though they're old and past or well past their primes. :facepalm:

    Based off what exactly? Absolutely nothing
     
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  9. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You Dagestani nuthugger, Serge. :nut:

    How're you doing, man??
     
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  10. West of Hollywood

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    With the exception of power Bivol seems to have top notch everything
     
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  11. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I agree with you that Loma, Usyk, Beterbiev etc. would be equally or even more accomplished if they turned pro earlier. However, with less amateur experience, they might have suffered 1-2 losses early in their careers as they were learning.

    By having those long amateur careers, they are essentially experienced pros when they turn pro and as such, its relatively easier to maintain an unbeaten record.

    Now obviously all these guys would be ATG's regardless of whether they turned pro earlier or not.
     
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  12. kirk

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    Bivol obviously has a good chin, good durability... but he did spend like 70% of the fight backpeddling away.

    Between moving with the punch, blocking with the guard, and outright making artur miss, I wonder how many genuinely clean punches he took. Enough to say he has a good chin of course, but would just be interesting to know.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No one needs 300-400 amateur fights it's just overkill and unnecessary miles on the clock and a waste of your prime if you plan on going pro. You've already learned everything you need to learn long before that.

    What you have to ask yourself is why do some fans think these fighters would've lost if they had less amateur fights than they did but fighters, among others, like Crawford, Ward, and Floyd and had 70, 120, and 93 fights respectively never did or haven't so far.

    I was going to include Loma but he did lose albeit he didn't actually deserve to lose to Salido and Haney and was fighting outside his natural weight class, a weight class which would be at least his 6th to possibly even his 8th or 8th depending on how young he turned pro, had he turned pro in his teens like so many other greats did, not his 3rd, against fighters who weighed over 2-4 weight divisions more than him in their backyards or on the road with a home ref and three home judges for Haney and a Ukrainian facing a Mexican in Texas with the most corrupt ref in the game was essentially a home match for Salido

    To be fair, Ward and Floyd, neither of whom ever fought outside their home country and had home country refs for every single one of their pro fights IIRC and a scandalous amount of home judges, especially Ward, would have losses too if not for corruption and home advantage

    And Crawford, who has also had home refs for all his fights and a crazy amount of home judges and only fought outside the US once in 41 fights, arguably would of too

    Having home advantage your entire career, almost all of it, and home refs for all your fights and a crazy amount of home judges is far more important for maintaining an unbeaten record or suffering losses than having 300-400 amateur fights as opposed to 200 or 100 is which is enough or more than enough for anyone.

    Remember I'm actually a huge fan of amateur boxing and have been for a very long time and I not only watched all these fighters in the amateurs going back to 2008 and subsequently watched some of their earlier fights prior to then. I've also seen many other elite and great amateurs from that region of the world, and Cuba, who never even turned pro so I've known how good and talented they all were for a long time. They would've been just as good had they turned pro back then too or the ones who didn't had actually turned pro (not all but certainly many or some would of).

    Again, 300-400 amateur fights is way too much
     
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  14. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I mostly agree with what you are saying.

    However, Floyd arguably did lose at least once despite his relatively careful match making. If Floyd took huge risks like Loma or Usyk, he likely would have at least 2-3 losses on his resume.

    Ward fouled and cheated regularly. Never fought outside his hometown. He did lose to Kovalev fair and square. I don't think the first fight is even debatable.

    Crawford is great but the reason he hasn't lost is because apart from Spence and Madrimov, his competition has been extremely limited.

    Overall, these guys too would have 1-2 losses each if they did not have the refs and judges on their side and if they had taken the same kind of risks that Usyk and Loma have taken.

    But overall, good post and i do agree.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: Hey, Hoops. How's things?

    I'm OK thanks
     
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