Muhammad Ali said in his autobiography that Ezzard Charles would be a tough opponent

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He mentioned Ezzard Charles in his autobiography and says that he believes that Charles would be a tough fight, even in his mid to late 1960s prime.
     
  2. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think so too. Great battle of wits and skill.
     
  3. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If memory is correct he lived near Ali when he lived in Chicago and they were friends.
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks! Didn't know that.
     
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  5. ThatOne

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    After his title fights, Charles became very close with Rocky Marciano and later was a neighbor and friend of Muhammad Ali when they both lived on 85th Street in Chicago (later in life when Charles suffered from financial difficulties and illness, both men along with other boxing celebrities hosted a fundraiser on his behalf).[13][14]


    Ezzard Charles - Wikipedia
     
  6. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fully agree. Charles is probably a top 10 p4p boxer of all time. He would give Ali problems.
     
  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Although I do think prime Ali would win by a SD at worst, TKO stoppage at best. A 71-75 Ali would struggle more, perhaps like he did with Norton. Prime Charles beats a 76-78 Ali like he beat Louis. 81 Ali gets wrecked by Prime Charles as bad as he did by Holmes.
     
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  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Ali said a lot of things.
     
  9. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he would struggle, especially late 1975 onwards. No shame in that either.

    When you look at Charles resume and who he fought throughout his career, its incredible.
     
  10. Glass City Cobra

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    Charles had the style, speed, and skill to give Ali trouble. He could potentially force Ali to fight on the front foot, making the matchup awkward and taking Ali out of his comfort zone. I think that Ali would need to be sharp and focused every round, otherwise Charles might steal some of them leading to a nail biting anticipation of the scorecards being read.

    But if Ali brings his A game and is in shape, Charles might not even make the distance. At the end of the day, he was still a fairly small HW who is outmatched athletically and could have a very hard time landing more than 1 clean punch at a time against the elusive, fleet footed Ali.
     
  11. PRW94

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    That book was written by Richard Durham, the former editor of Muhammad Speaks, and every page was subject to the approval of Herbert Muhammad, and most people believe that Ali never saw a page of it until it was released. He may have thought that about Ezzard Charles, but I would never use this particular book for verification that water is wet.
     
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  12. Saintpat

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    Prime Ali would do a lot worse to post-prime Ezzard than vice-versa, I would think.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Sure, I would pick Ali to beat Charles both in their primes. But prime Charles would arguably be the best of Ali's 1960s challengers. And, if prime Charles came around in the 1970s, he would do at least as well as Quarry or Norton.
     
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  14. kingfisher3

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    You won't find bigger charles guy than me but this seems like a bad matchup for him.

    ali was a fair bit bigger and compared to hw charles a fair bit quicker too. that's a lot to overcome.
     
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  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Stylewise, is Ellis perhaps the closest to Charles of Ali's opponent? Spontaneously, I'd say so.