Why did Anthony Joshua lose so bad against Daniel Dubois

what went wrong ? Everything

 

Joshua's biggest problems are all in his head. He goes from extreme low confidence (Ruiz 2, Usyk 1) to extreme over-confidence (Ruiz 1, Ngannou, Dubois). All his best nights came when he was confident enough to open up and take risks but tentative enough not to make silly mistakes (Klitschko, Povetkin, Martin, Wallin).

Also: Ben Davidson. Awful trainer with a track record to prove it. I really hope Joshua goes back to Derrick James when he comes back because he's a much better fit, and just generally better than Boxercise Ben (not that that's hard).

Over-confidence and wrong game plan - thinking Dubois was just gonna be wide open to the right hand like he was in the Hrgovic fight. I still think Joshua could beat Dubois, who I'm not sold on, if he goes back to a more tentative style.

 

AJ didn't have any over-confidnece going into that bout...

He lost here:

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He was a wreck on his ring walk, he knew he was in deep and he was forced into that fight instead of a light hitting chump as he has been matched his whole career.

I have no doubt the gameplan would have been to box smart and drag it out late in the hope that Dubious would slow badly and get sloppy

Instead Dubious stuck his underrated jab on AJ who has an overrated jab, out the gates and dismantled him with ease fighting with balls and pizzaz which is all you need to beat AJ. Anyone with Dubious level power and will to win will topple AJ over. Chisora would chin AJ. He's a manufactured fighter, he hasn't got it in him to overcome adversity and succeed, he only managed once against Wlad mostly down to Wlad bieng an epic failure although he had a chance to finish Wlad earlier in that bout and failed to take it.

AJ would have been favourite to beat a greener Dubious years back...but dubious has been on a hard paper round for the past few years whilst AJ has been coddled, paying to sit in dark rooms and threaten schoolchildren.

Boxing is supposed to build character but AJ never did, he was a built fake character a fraud from the get go and he's still trying to hold onto that facade.

 

Most likely has some form of anxiety or strong confidence issues, that Klitschko cross thst knocked him down screwed him up mentally.

 

What makes you think his plan was to box smart and drag things out late? Seemed to me Davidson's whole gameplan was just to land the right hand. He came out fast trying to land it, not trying to jab and start slow.

And what is with the AJ hate on here? He's not the best fighter ever but jesus. Saying he hasn't fought any big punchers is crazy - Klitschko, Whyte, Povetkin are all big punchers and they all landed on him. He went in with Ruiz twice who's a big puncher.

What makes you think Chisora beats Joshua? Joshua beat Parker, Whyte, Pulev, who all beat Chisora, and he blasted out Wallin a lot faster than Chisora did. He's not a manufactured fighter, he had a good title run then lost to some top guys.

 

I think he thought it was gonna be an easy fight
That first knock down clearly showed him otherwise and he just never got the space to be allowed to recover for the remainder of the fight

 

Definitely a bit truth to their sparring and he couldn't intimidate Daniel

 

The plain and simple answer is that Joshua just isn't as good as the public wanted him to be. He was sold as something he is not.

You'll see countless responses in this thread about "strategy" and "confidence" and "style", but these are merely the hopes of dedicated fans.

 

Expected Dubois to give him too much respect. Fighting weak gatekeepers consistently did not help either, they either had no skill (Ngannou, Helenius), or no power (Wallin, Franklin). I don't think AJ and his team anticipated the gap of threat between Wallin/Ngannou to Dubois.

Dubois's gameplan to really push AJ was quite risky but super effective.

 

It's really not even that risky. We're not talking about a counter puncher with power like Zhang. We're talking about a guy that has a mediocre chin, average defense, and can't fight as effectively off the back foot.

Povetkin, Whyte, and Ruiz are the only three who went in there and tried to achieve something similar. Whyte was pretty green and still had some success. Povetkin was 39 and still had some success. Ruiz was in his prime and stopped him similar to Dubois. There's a clear pattern.

 

For a technical analyses of what went wrong, you can't beat Carl Frampton who suggested AJ resembled someone trying to look over a high fence throughout the fight....

 

AJ is a fraud, and he always has been. Eddie Hearn has used two things to try and protect him; inactivity and fighting very weak opponents. As to inactivity, from 2019-2022, AJ fought just 5 times in 4 years. He was being lauded as an amazing, top 10 HW when in fact he was a celebrity with a small side-hustle in boxing. The quality of his opponents is dreadful, and always bas been. He LOVES to fight shot, over the hill 39-41 year old men, like Povetkin, Pulev, Robert Freaking Helenius. . .he also fights absolute nobodies, like some can named "Jermaine Franklin", an MMA guy, and assorted bums. I knew Dubois would destroy him. Oh, and he hasn't fought since being smashed last September, and Eddie Hearn claims he won't be ready to fight again until sometime this fall. A man who fights as often as Christmas comes should not even be ranked among active fighters. He is the biggest fraud in boxing right now.

 

He came in with the wrong gameplan and underestimated Dubois. I think he saw Hrgovic light up Dubois with his cross and thought he could just do the exact same thing and knock him out right away. And when Dubois threw that massive overhand in R1, AJ backed up in a straight line with his hands down. I think he just got complacent and miscalculated the distance, and after that first knockdown he never recovered.