Miguel Angel Gonzalez Is Underrated

No MAG was much more talented and Juan often came into the ring as a welterweight when he was a lightweight.
Juan also turned down a fight with Mayweather which tells you all you need to know.

 

He beat Tackie, Stevie (aging) John John Molina, Leija, Antonio Diaz, and Crayton. It’s easy to argue that it’s a better resume.

 

John John Molina was a 100 years old when he lost.
Leija, which is obvious you didn't watch the fight, beat Juan but was robbed. Juan was almost crying before the announcement of the decision.
Stevie was a good win regardless if he was faded.
Tackie is decent but Tackle had already been exposed at World class losing to all three world class boxers he faced by wide margins prior to meeting Juan.
Antonio Diaz was a very good win.
I have absolutely no idea why you would include Crayton as a notable win.
MAG beat Hector Lopez in a very good fight and Lopez was a hell of a boxer.
MAG beat Johnson who had just knocked out unbeaten Mitchell. And latter on Johnson would win a world title.
MAG beat and stopped Mendy who latter captured a world title.
MAG beat Tyson who was a pretty Soild contender.

 

1. Molina had beaten Tackie and Augustus recently. He could still fight.
2. I'm pretty sure I did see the Leija fight and do not remember a robbery.
3. Lazcano was the first to beat Stevie since the first Castillo fight and he stopped him.
4. Tackie was a big, strong 140 who lost to the top 140s but beat the other guys.

As for MAG, Mendy was ok but Sharmba was an inexperienced prospect who would lose to Stevie by stoppage next. There are endless guys in that weightrange over the last thirty years who could rival MAGs career.

 

Molina was a JR LIGHTWEIGHT and was around 36 years old when he fought Juan my god he never fought again. He was very far removed from world class and Juan still struggled with him.
Tackle lost to almost EVERY SINGLE world class opponent he fought. His whole entire claim to fame is a comeback in a fight he was being badly outboxed in he came back to win.
Sharmba was freaking 30- 0 and nobody really wanted to face him and I know that for a fact because I knew people involved with promoting saying they couldn't get any of the top fighters to face him and that included MAG. Johnson only agreed to face him because it was the largest payday Johnson had yet to receive as a pro and the winner was promised a title shot.
And make no mistake about it Johnson was getting beaten up until he landed that one shot.

 

What was Sharmba’s best win heading into Johnson? I’m surprised you haven’t brought up Marty since you like numbers.

 

Marty was a nifty boxer who like to box and was very active. He also beat some pretty good boxers and maneuvered himself into some big fights - and he did almost all of that on HIS OWN.
Now I know you think you know boxing more then you do but to have a career that Marty had is very impressive and believe it or not Marty had skills.
Sharmba fought every single person they put in front of him and it didn't matter who it was Sharmba would win easy.
Lockridge,Baysmore,Byrd, Limon,Roston, hell they would literally fight anyone. Hell I think his THIRD fight they matched him up against an unbeaten boxer.
He would face Wenton,Marston, Byrd, really anyone.
I dont think you understand how hard it is for a boxer to go 30-0 especially in the United States AND on the East Coast on top of that.

 

OK, so Sharmba hadn't fought anyone before the back to back Ls, one of which was to a guy who Lazcano beat.

 

Well to a causal boxing fan like yourself that just looks at records he hasn't but for those in the know he did.
Marston was a very Soild boxer as was Wenton.

Here let me break it down for you so at least you all have a little bit of knowledge.

Juans first year as a pro featured him not meeting a single boxer unbeaten OR with a winning record.
This tells me his team is attempting to build him up.
Sharmba on the other hand THREE fights into his pro career gets matched vs another unbeaten boxer who actually has more fights as well.
Now lets move to year 2 as a pro.
Oh look Juan drops a decision to a boxer with a losing record.
Sharmba wins every single fight.
Now 3rd year is usually when a boxer starts to make some moves.
Juan opens up with a good win over Antonio Diaz but any momentum generated is wiped out by a draw in his very next bout.
Sharmba opens up beating Roston,Brewer, Limon,Wenton, and then is matched with an "up coming" prospect Podolak in a televised fight which he easily wins. Then he finishes off one time prospect Byrd in a televised bout.
Year 4 opens up with Juan avenging his draw and winning 1 other bout.
Sharmba beats up a used Santana and then has a televised hometown grudge match televised by USA Network.
See how it works and the difference between the two?
Four years as a pro is long enough for someone to gain plenty of experience and to show you what they possess.
Most up and coming boxers actually receive a title shot of some sorts by year 4.
I think the Castillo bouts took a lot out of Johnson by the time he met Juan but I also think Juan had the size that would always trouble Johnson.
Sharmba,who I actually meant and really disliked him immensely as a person, was vastly more talented then Juan and it is not even up for a debate.
Losing to two future world champions is really not that big of a deal especially considering what Mitchell achieved latter in his career.
Juan had very careful match making and also got lucky in two fights that could have easily gone the other way. And Vasquez made an ill advised comeback after being a pro for almost 20 years.

 

I always thought he got favorable judging against Lamar "Speed" Murphy. Murphy fought a great fight that night, and, I thought he deserved the decision. Much like Kovalev's "loss" to Andre Ward, Murphy was never quite the same fighter after getting the short end of the stick.