Greatest boxer ever by first letter of last name

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  1. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    I did this at airliners.net about the most famous airlines of the world right now, and so inspired myself to do a similar list here. The greatest or best boxer by letter of last name.

    We can disagree, in fact, that is what this is about. At Airliners.net, I had American for A, Cargolux for C, Fed Ex for F, Qatar Airways for Q and Zero G (questionable whether they are an airline or not, as they only fly charters that take off and land at Miami Airport, one hour rides basically) for Z. Some people said "but isnt Air France more famous than AMerican, Cathay Pacific more famous than Cargolux, Finnair."....you get the grid....and i have to admit at least in Z's case they were right since there is an actual airline named Zipair that does fly actual routes and to many airports in Asia. So arguing is part of the fun!

    So, without further due, here is my list of greatest boxers ever by first letter of last name. You can also include women boxers. I'll also add my candidates in parenthesis.

    A. Muhammad Ali (his daughter Laila, Henry Armstrong and Alexis Arguello are candidates too)
    B. Wilfred Benitez
    C. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. (Billy Conn, Tony Canzoneri)
    D. Roberto Duran (Jack Dempsey)
    E. Alfredo Escalera
    F. Bob Fitzsimmons (George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Gene Fullmer)
    G. Wilfredo Gomez (Harry Greb, Rocky Graziano. Gerardo "Kid Gavilan" Gonzalez)
    H. Larry Holmes (Marvin Hagler, Regina Halmich, Evander Holyfild, Bernard Hopkins)
    I. Luis Ibarra
    J. Jack Johnson (Julian Jackson, Peter Jackson, Young Peter Jackson, Roy Jones Jr.)
    K. Stanley Ketchell (Vitaly Klitschko)
    L. Benny Leonard (Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Leonard)
    M. Archie Moore (Rocky Marciano-I know he beat Moore but I mean more career wise-Floyd Mayweather, Pedro Montanez)
    N. Jose Napoles (Ken Norton)
    O. Ruben Olivares (Carlos Ortiz, Manuel Ortiz, Bobo Olson)
    P. Willie Pep (Eusebio Pedroza, Billy Papke, Manny Pacquiao)
    Q. Dwight Muhammad Qawi (Carlos Quintana, Francisco Quiroz)
    R. Sugar Ray Robinson (Barney Ross)
    S. Salvador Sanchez (Sandy Saddler , Max Schmeling and, as of now at least, Amanda Serrano)
    T. Felix Trinidad (Mike Tyson, Kostya Tszyu)
    U. Amado Ursua (Alexander Usik)
    V. Wilfedo Vazquez Sr (Fernando Vargas)
    W. Mickey Walker (Pernell Whitaker)
    X. No one lol- well, X Musk maybe if he can punch people already!
    Y. Jimmy Young
    Z. Fritzie Zivic (Carlos Zarate, Hilario Zapata)

    Now, let's see your lists!!
     
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  2. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    C. Al Cole, Young Corbett III, Prudencio Cardona
    Z. Steve Zouski
    X. Archie Moore's guard
    W. Ad Wolgast,Midget Wolgast,Prince Charles Williams
    G: Antonio Gomez,Kid Gavilan (Gerardo Gonzalez), Jhonny Gonzalez
    E. Antonio Esparragoza
    A. Marco Antonio Barrera,Art Aragon, Antonio Avelar
    H. Art Hafey, Fighting Harada
    J. Marvin Johnson, Eder Jofre, Chris John
    M. Saoul Mamby
    S. Kuniaki Shibata, Vicente Saldivar
    P. Tony Pellone
     
  3. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    lol
     
  4. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You had me at Steve Zouski.

    :D
     
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  5. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He deserves the journeyman hall of fame,so why not? I can't put Z money's name alongside Zouski tho.
     
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    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Yeah but they forgot Jommy K. Ellis at E ...lol
     
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  7. Greg Price99

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    Armstrong
    Britton
    Charles
    Duran
    (Frank) Erne (Ebihara and Escabar also fair shouts)
    Fitzsimmons
    Greb
    Hagler
    Ioka
    Jofre
    Ketchel
    Langford
    McFarland
    Napoles
    Olivares
    Pep
    Qawi
    Robinson
    (Michael) Spinks
    Tunney
    Usyk
    Villa
    Walker
    (Can) Xu
    Yarosz
    Zarate
     
  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    This is very creative. My ABC of boxers. Kudos!
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Nice. :D
     
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  10. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    aww ty!! lol
     
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    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Great list!!
     
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  12. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you, Antonio
     
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  13. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    I think as humans we are biased towards people from the era in which we grew up , forgetting some of the newer people and, specially, some of the older ones. For example, I listed Ali, whose last fight was in 1981 and I became a fan in 1982, roughly still Ali's era. And Benitez. I listed Luis Ibarra and forgot Naouya Inouye who is unquestionably better.

    And Jack Britton is definitely a guy I should have considered for letter B!
     
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  14. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you suggesting I was around in the 1890's because I selected Frank Erne and Bob Fitzsimmons? ;-)

    Seriously, in general I agree with you. I've done extensive research to support my all time rankings, so know a little bit about great fighters from the 1890's to the current day, and generally rank based on dominance in their own era, rather than on the basis of giving preference to some eras over others.
     
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