How is it possible that we have no (known) footage of Harry Greb fighting?

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  1. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    The title pretty much says it all. From what I’ve gathered, the guy was a massive draw in his time and constantly received praise. So… how is it that we don’t have a single piece of footage from any of his professional fights?

    I’ve read that the Mickey Walker fight was a huge deal back in the day—like, a real headline event. There are tons of photos from it, so clearly cameras were there… yet not even a second of video? That just doesn’t add up.

    It’s honestly kind of baffling. For someone so prominent in his era, you'd expect at least one reel to have survived. Did all the footage just vanish? Was it never recorded? Did a rich boxing maniac just bought it all and has it in a big bank safe? Or is it just sitting in some archive, collecting dust? Either way, it's strange—and kind of frustrating for fans of boxing history
     
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  2. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can search the prior threads in this Classic Forum and obtain a lot of information. The topic has been pretty well exhausted. Klompton2 is the Harry Greb expert and a notorious film collector. He no longer posts on this forum, but his posts may address most of your concerns and more.
     
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  3. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    As i'm a lazy **** i'd rather get the answers in this specific thread
     
  4. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Suit yourself.
     
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  5. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    A lot of films were lost during war time. There is the possibility that Greb footage survives somewhere but no actual fights have surfaced thus far.
     
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  6. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    There probably was film of Greb but if it wasn't stored correctly and or updated time would have destroyed it.
     
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  7. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've heard in a YouTube comment section that there's actually some films of him that got lost because of the materials they used to screen the fight,I forgot the material but it's not as long lasting like the ones they got on Johnson vs Burns for example
     
  8. Smoochie

    Smoochie Would deal with the devil for sum Greb footage Full Member

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    This **** keeps me awake at night op, incredible
     
  9. SolomonDeedes

    SolomonDeedes Active Member Full Member

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    In part, it's because of the law against transporting fight films between US states, which was brought in after Johnson - Jeffries and not repealed till 1940. This made it less likely that a film would be archived in the US, and also meant there was simply less of a commercial incentive to make the film in the first place.
     
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  10. jdempsey85

    jdempsey85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Last documented private showing was in 1978
     
  11. Hannibal Barca

    Hannibal Barca Active Member Full Member

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    The mysterious Craig Long posting about Greb vs Walker?
     
  12. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Footage doesn't exist because Greb didn't exist.

    He was a social experiment conducted by the CIA with the cooperation of various boxing coaches and promoters to see how long people would believe in a hyped up legend. Writers made crazy money raving on a out the "Pittsburgh Windmill" describing his vicious and wild crowd pleasing style. Skilled elite boxers were bribed to confess they either had rough fights with or lost to the mythical Greb to inflate the reputation of the fictitious fighter. Whenever the demand for evidence reached a breaking point after too many rumors circulated, paid actors would show up for staged bouts with credible opponents.

    Hardcore boxing experts with discerning eyes were able to spot obvious problems with the actor's timing, accuracy, stance, etc for a guy who was supposedly so skilled. The decisions over otherwise genuinely credible opponents were also called into question after reviewing the footage. Thus, the project was abandoned and the CIA undertook the monumental task of scrubbing all footage of Greb from every archive available. Film collectors were harassed or silenced. The actors who played Greb received adequate compensation, changed identities, and moved to either Canada or Brazil.
     
  13. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The search button has been better, it´s not as easy to find precise info by the search anymore...
     
  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I know someone who knows something but that's all I can say.
     
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  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I told you not to mention my Greb career set.
     
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