Ali's take on Foreman vs Tyson

I've always picked Foreman. Ali makes some good points even tho he was going downhill.

Edit - young Foreman.

 

Always seen it as a 50-50 fight. Those that think it would be a repeat of Foreman-Frazier are all wrong as Tyson and Frazier were vastly different. Tyson had more power, speed and was a faster starter. Joe had more stamina but his slower start was poison against Foreman.

 

That makes it Ali and Cus

Not to mention Foreman's questionable bracing and shoving that he could use to stuff Tyson coming in, even Holyfield had trouble with Foreman's timing, Tyson is 100% getting tagged and I don't see him holding up as well as Lyle

 

Fighter backs fighter from his own era to beat fighter in a newer era. Never seen this before.

 

At the same time and please correct me if I’m
wrong but didn’t Foreman say that Ali advised him to steer clear of Tyson during Foreman’s comeback?

 

I don't think so.

 

Foreman in his comeback was far too slow to beat Tyson. Foreman might make the distance since he was strong as an ox, but, his face would likely look like hamburger in the end. Tyson doesn't have to get a stoppage to win. He could win a decision like he did against Tucker or Smith. Tyson had excellent speed both offensively, and defensively. He would see George's punches coming from a mile away. And, Tyson (unlike Moorer) has the whiskers to withstand an occasional hard shot from George.

 

Ali's right,,an old Foreman takes him out. No 5'11 heavyweight with a short reach , coming forward winging hooks at Geroge Foreman will survive. If you add the fear factor it's worse, Earnie Shavers said after watching Holyfield beat Mike that the reason he won was because he wasn't sacred of Tyson. Foreman feared no one

 

Tyson is significantly more proven against big Heavyweight punchers compared to Frazier.

Tyson beat the likes of Ruddock, Bruno, Bonecrusher, who were all KO artists and big guys and Tyson dealt with them.

Whilst I see Foreman’s uppercut and shoving tactics giving Tyson alot of issues it certainly wouldn't be a repeat of Foreman vs Frazier not even close.

Tyson has a better chin than Frazier and weight wise Foreman/Tyson are almost identical.

Tyson never struggled against slower big punching Heavyweights either you have to beat him at distance or tie him up on the inside and nullify his work.

And if we're talking strictly about an old Foreman he would be far too slow and would get lit up like a christmas tree.

 

And Qawi who wasnt anywhere near as big or dangerous as Tyson and was old and shot to boot gave Foreman problems and a glass jawed Alex Stewart traded with Foreman and made his face look like a bashed up rotten tomato. But Tyson couldnt do that? Who exactly did the older Foreman beat that makes anyone think he had a snowballs chance in hell of beating much less stopping Tyson? The only way Foreman is beating Tyson is if Bob Arum bribes Tyson to lose like he was doing with everyone else Foreman was fighting and I dont think Arum has the kind of money it would take to buy Tyson.

 

Young George is a different animal to those Mike Tyson had beat.

Foreman hated movers/outboxers who had a great jab - such as Ali and Young. Tyson is not particularly that type of fighter.

I think this fight suits Young George more than Prime Tyson.

 

Here ‘tis.

George didn’t relate that Ali exactly told him not to fight Tyson - the IV’er framed it that way.

But I think it was fairly framed as Ali’s cautioning/warning to Foreman strongly implied that Tyson was someone who Foreman shouldn’t face.

I love Foreman’s “answer” re a hypothetical match up between Ali and Tyson.

Very well thought out and expressed. Some might say sidestepped? I’m kidding.

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