Is Bernard Hopkins an ATG at 175lbs?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Devon, Apr 22, 2025 at 5:02 AM.


Is Bernard Hopkins an ATG at 175lbs?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We know he is at 160lbs and also overall (adding up his resume at 160lbs and 175lbs).

    But specifically at 175lbs, is he an ATG?
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Nope.

    Didn't do enough. Nor do i rank him particularly high on 175 in a strictly head to head sense. Nope. A win over Tarver is excellent but not in my top 20 at 175.
     
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  3. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    No. He lost to Calzaghe, Kovalev & Dawson & was dropped by Pascal twice in a draw.. yes he was doing it at an advanced age and some of the outcomes were contentious but he didn't do enough to be a great at the weight.. An all-time great fighter in general just not at light heavyweight. Good win over Tarver though.. Cloud was decent but nothing special & Wright wasn't a LHW.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    Calzaghe kicked his ass...
     
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  5. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    Well the fight stunk to high heaven and they pretty much neutralized each other's best assets in a way .. bringing out the worst in both of them.. but I do think Hopkins couldn't deal with the physicality and work rate of Joe so had to resort to stalling the fight.. even though it was one of Joe's worst performances I still think he did enough. He was pretty much done with boxing by then though.. the Hopkins and Jones fights were nothing but cash out fights. I'd have like to have seen Joe fight Hopkins at 168 in his prime because I've always maintained he would have beaten him then too.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    Agree, horrible fight.
     
  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    Not really no he was always a natural 175lber at 160 does that count? lol.
     
  8. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    It at least answered a fantasy fan question similar to Holmes vs Holyfield we just say “Look at what Larry did as an old man!” Etc.
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lost to Calzaghe.Got dominated by Dawson and Kovalev.Went life and death with Pascal.No Hopkins definitely was not a great light heavweight
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    His accomplishments there are good and he did after all become the oldest man to a win a championship while being at that weight. But no. Not enough depth to be an ATG light heavy.
     
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