Active all time great talents with weak resumes IMO

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Apr 23, 2025 at 6:31 PM.


  1. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    But you didn't.

    As I stated. Reality does show itself sometimes.
     
  2. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    You really don't want him to explain why he calls them all time anything.... You'll be left with more questions than you had before the conversation.
     
  3. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Nice way to shore horn Boots is amazing in your thread
     
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  4. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bud should be top of any of these lists.
    Beat Spence fine, but question marks over how much the crash took out of him, Porter fine... then has been and ghosts
     
  5. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Exactly - all time greats with crap resumes is a self-contradictory category.

    There are ATG's and there are "what if" fighters who have been hyped/"judged" to be beyond what they've proved and/or beyond their achievements.

    I don't believe in giving massive credits for things fighters haven't proved and haven't achieved.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But I should've because it's accurate. Another agrees Bud should top the list, maybe a poll would be a good guage
     
  7. BLine

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    Apart from Breidis at the end of his career. Opetaia has beaten nobody.
     
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  8. ZiggyBowie

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    Since when has Agit Kabayel been an all time great talent?
    Maybe I missed that one.
    Maybe a more apt description would be ‘a useful HW that might win a world title when all the belts are split.’
     
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  9. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In fairness, it’s not through lack of trying. Zurdo doesn’t want a bar of him, CBS and RR are not at his level and the other good cruisers are happy to play around the fringes until Opetaia moves on. Beating the great Breidis twice (regardless of his age) has scared the rest of them off. So certainly Opetaia isn’t the problem here. He’ll fight anybody, anywhere, anytime.

    I think Bivol would probably fight him but that would only happen if all other less risky (and/or) lucrative options fell over. And Opetaia would be a heavy favourite to win that, although Bivol is good enough to make it interesting. Beterbiev would get slaughtered. The same goes for anybody else at or below cruiserweight.

    In Opetaia’s case it might be that he’s just too good at cruiserweight and may have to move up to heavyweight to make his run at true greatness.
     
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  10. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Although I despise him and his boring style, I wouldn’t be surprised if Shakur Stevenson retires undefeated with a great resume.
     
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  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's very possible, if not even likely that a prime Briedis stops Jai. An old Briedis came on late and really started to land hard punches. I think a younger Briedis turns the screws.
     
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  12. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe, maybe not. But the point is that even a post-prime Breidis beats the hell out of every other CW. So when Jai beat him twice it had the rest of them running for the hills. Hence Jai has had to keep taking stay busy fights until Zurdo is forced to fight. Jai then unifies and moves up, leaving the rest of them to go at it.
     
  13. JusABoxinFan

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    But the point is...... All the goofy stuff you can do going forward would just be YOU trying to troll.

    Can't claim a guy should be at the top of your dumb list when you mentioned like 10 guys including the man you have a crush on and didn't mention that guy.

    This thread just proves how hypocritically goofy and dumb you lovefest is for Jaron Ennis. Though I pointed out how his resume lacked any evidence that he deserves to be in the ring with any elite opponent. You got to crying and campaigning hard for your man crush.....Only to put his name on your dumb made up list showcasing how much of a trashy record he has.

    Now you are trying to double back and discredited one of the most decorated active fighters in the sport so it can make you feel better about the reality check you gave yourself on Jaron Ennis......lol.

    Feel free to ramble about it. I won't engage..... I'll just laugh and every word you use to save face......... lol..... Go ahead and talk about it. I got time for some comedy.......lol.
     
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calling Crawfords resume light and airy for an atg isn't a troll thats how most see it. The real challenge is name Buds top 5 opponents, because they aren't to write home about. Talent is a different story
     
  15. tarrant45

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    No other fighters gets this benefit of the doubt. His resume is full of C and D level fighters. Apart from Briedis I can't even see anyone B level on there.