clearly not because 1 pound is NOTHING! Put it this way. if Mayweather had to move up 20 pounds to the next division, it would have never have happened. He simply doesn't have the balls Usyk has, any truthful Mayweather fan should be able to admit that. When Mayweather was moving up in weight it was all natural as he was ageing because he turned pro as a teenager, and the weight divisional differences were a very small number of lbs in comparison to what Usyk had to move up by. He didn't even have the cojones to face Golovkin at middleweight to make a statement and prove his greatness. You just know if that had been Usyk, the fight would have been made in a heartbeat. Usyk is a different breed in that respect.
Like I said, that was the weigh in. Canelo was more than a pound heavier fight night. As was Oscar. And you are obviously missing the point. YOU stated Floyd never fought anyone who outweighed him. That was false. Be a man and just admit you were wrong. And Valuez outweighed John Ruiz by nearly 100 pounds. Same w/ Holy v Valuev. Guess you will agree what they did is more impressive than what Usyk did, just going by your attempt at logic.
Not weak argument at all it's about context Broner was a weak belt holder where as Mayweather P4P top fighter for over a decade who was the number 1 in every division he fought at including being lineal champion in 4 of the weightclasses. Usyk was undisputed in a division that's only been around since the 1980s it's not a historically great division. Crawford is also undisputed in 2 weightclases yet many people don't consider his resume to be overly strong hence what you're saying is not always true. Mayweather was lineal champion in 4 divisions which pretty means you're the man of the division at that time. Whether or not you believe Pacquiao has a better record than Mayweather what does that have to do with Usyk ? Usyk is not close to Pacquiao's resume either so that's a moot point. I'm not sure if you're being serious or specifically choosing your narrative. You're saying Mayweather's opponent weren't "prime" but neither was Fury he was 36 years old coming off the worst performance of his career vs an MMA fighter. Bellew wasn't prime either when he fought Usyk it was the final fight of his career. Dubois wasn't prime when he fought Usyk still green without experience at world level. You see how easy that is to do when choosing a narrative ? Mayweather was past his prime and schooled a young champion who outweighed him by two weightclasses who would go on to become a great fighter. Yes i do consider it a top win and Canelo would be ranked higher than Fury in any metric.
Are we really comparing Usyk and Floyd? I've never seen Floyd look bruised or battered after a fight, rarely seen him lose a round never mind being dominated and his record humbles Usyk's. And I'm an usyk FAN!!
Yeah honestly i don't bother now i also know who the ALT account is so best just to put them on the block move on and don't feed them. This person said i'm triggered yet he was the one who started with the insults which is an oxymoron. No one is saying Usyk isn't a great but some of these Usyk fan boys are intolerable with the hype saying he's the GOAT or higher ranked than Mayweather, Pacquiao, which is baffling IMO. They also make out Usyk is the only Heavyweight in history to beat larger Heavyweights and put too much stock in what Heavyweights weigh because it's simply not like other weightclasses. Most of the Heavyweights now are fat and carrying excess weight look at Fury he has love handles and trunks up to his arm pits. Being a 270 pound lard ass is not as impressive as a solid in shape Heavyweight who weighs between 210-220 who is at the upper echelon level.
Clenelo weighed 165 to Floyd's 150 but let's not conveniently forget that Floyd crippled him with a catchweight and that version of Clenelo was not only physically compromised he was also a far cry from the fighter Clenelo would later become. If Floyd wanted the credit for beating a full strength Clenelo he should pulled an Usyk and fought the bigger man at full strength and does Serge really need to remind everyone of his comments regarding fighting opponents at catchweights because Serge has all the receipts? Crude Caveman Maidana was bigger than Floyd too but let's also not conveniently forget that Floyd lost the first fight against him in many people's eyes and he refused to allow him to wear his perfectly legal commission approved puncher's gloves, the same gloves Maidana was wearing when he got schooled by Devon Alexander Are we also supposed to conveniently forget that Floyd ducked Manny for years like Manny had leprosy and wouldn't go within sniffing distance of him until he saw JMM flatline Manny out cold on his face for an eternity? And then when he finally did manage to summon the courage to fight the ''midget'' in the US on a deck stacked in his favour he got caught using illegal IV to ever so obviously mask his PED use after having sullied Manny's good name by accusing him of being the one who was on PEDs and concocting that whole ''clean up the sport'' pretext to pull the duck Floyd was also very rarely at a reach disadvantage and despite being the ''face of boxing'' he never dared do once what Usyk forged a career out of doing, fighting outside his homeland and in his opponent's backyards. There is zero reason why he couldn't have done that but we know you guys will not only give him a free pass for that, just like you give Roy a free pass for being a PED cheat, but you'll give him a free pass for everything whilst you simultaneously crucify Usyk on a molten cross. Would Floyd have fought Manny in the Philippines? You all know damn well he wouldn't of in a million years. Would Usyk have done so if he was the same size as Manny? We all know the answer to that. I could keep going on but you get the point. You guys are indeed correct about Floyd being cut from a different cloth to Usyk but it's not in a good or honourable way at all
Incorrect. Mayweather has 1 controversial decision in his career against Castillo in which he beat him much more convincingly the 2nd time. He also has a competitive win vs Maidana that a majority think he won. So i'm not sure where you are getting 3 losses from. Usyk also has a close decision win vs Briedis that could be scored a draw are we going to overlook that aswell ? We also don't know how great Usyk is he hasn't fought that often in recent years and has rematched the same opponents 3 times he also hasn't fought anyone considered great.
By that logic we don't know how good Usyk is because he fights so infrequently and wastes time rematching the same guys over and over. We will likely never see him fight Opetaia, Kabayel, Parker, etc because of his activity and pointless rematches
You've never seen him against Castillo, Maidana, De La Hoya? You didn't see old Cotto making him bleed? You're not a Usyk fan, stop capping as the kids would say.
I don't think you have. Most people have Mayweather beating Maidana 7-5. His fight vs ODLH wasn't close it was an 8-4 type fight. The only controversial win Mayweather had that he could've lost is vs Castillo that he put right in the rematch. Yes Cotto made him bleed but it wasn't that close and Cotto is historically greater than of Usyk's opponents so i'm not sure what point you're making there. As i said before are we ignoring Usyk's close fight vs Briedis ?
Yeah yeah. People saying the was dominant or barely lost a round. Anybody who watched his career knows that is objectively wrong. He was never dominant like prime Tyson, Jones or Pac. Floyd was never at that level.
It's not objectively wrong outside of a few fights Mayweather won most of his fights very convincingly or in dominant fashion. How many fighters have won more than 3 or 4 rounds vs Mayweather in 50 fights ? and there's your answer.