WW3: Wilder vs Willard

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Apr 25, 2025 at 9:27 PM.


Who wins and how

  1. Willard KO/TKO

    2 vote(s)
    12.5%

  2. Wilder KO/TKO

    11 vote(s)
    68.8%

  3. Willard Decision

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%

  4. Wilder Decision

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%

  5. Draw

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%
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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Don't laugh because Jess Willard was champion in an era of only 1 champion per weight class. He also was stronger than Wilder and could bull him around, much like Fury did and Fury wasn't known as a big puncher, but hit plenty hard enough to hurt Wilder and I suspect that Willard would as well hit hard enough to hurt Wilder.

    That said who wins the battle of the W's?
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Apr 25, 2025 at 9:27 PM
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  2. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    If this had been a scheduled 12 round fight, I would go with Jess Willard by Decision, but it would have been a dangerous f(r)ight for him.
     
    Shay Sonya, Apr 25, 2025 at 9:32 PM
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  3. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Willard is a rare HW champ I can see Wilder outpointing without a knockout. Not that it'd be a sure thing but Wilder can outpoint him I think. He won his belt in a fight he was getting shutout 25-0. He didn't win that belt his manager did.

    Fulton and Coffey are the 1910s giants that impress. Same with Morris even if Willard has a win over him. If you're looking for a giant from that era to knock out Wilder Fultons your guy.
     
    HistoryZero26, Apr 25, 2025 at 9:45 PM
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Wilder’s nuke of a right hand would make the third world war end abruptly.
     
    mr. magoo, Apr 25, 2025 at 9:54 PM
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  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    This is a bad fight for Willard.
    Wilders power gets him out of there in 5 IMO.
     
    Fergy, Apr 26, 2025 at 12:58 AM
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  6. McGrain

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    It's much easier for Wilder to get a stoppage in the modern era than in Willard's era.

    Obviously.

    So, as always, it depends upon the gloves, the distance, the referee etc.
     
    McGrain, Apr 26, 2025 at 1:08 AM
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  7. BCS8

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    Willard is an awful boxer, all he has going for him is size, toughness and some power.

    Wilder is also a bad boxer (but better than Willard) however he's got shattering power, better speed and pretty good stamina and grit.

    I can't see how Willard wins this, because he's not hard to land on and Wilder has a thunderbolt of a right hand. It would be a contest between Wilder's stamina and Willard's face, and I'm betting the mortgage on Wilder caving him in before getting tired.
     
    BCS8, Apr 26, 2025 at 2:48 AM
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  8. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Here's some footage to refer to

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    Seriously, who do ya think wins?
     
    BCS8, Apr 26, 2025 at 2:52 AM
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  9. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd pick all of Wilder's opponents in the highlight video to beat Willard too!
     
    Pat M, Apr 26, 2025 at 5:44 AM
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  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Remember, Willard was heavyweight champion of the world. Just like Holyfield
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Apr 26, 2025 at 6:30 AM
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  11. BCS8

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    and Marvin Hart and Tommy Burns
     
    BCS8, Apr 26, 2025 at 7:43 AM
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Hart vs prime Tyson would be a good fight
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Apr 26, 2025 at 8:58 AM
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  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    If it’s a 50 round fight, with a very lenient referee like the Willard-Dempsey fight…..


    Wilder sleeps him in 1.
     
    swagdelfadeel, Apr 26, 2025 at 9:19 AM
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Why is there such a low opinion of Willard. He was a super heavyweight who was the best of his era.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Apr 26, 2025 at 9:53 AM
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  15. BCS8

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    If somebody told Willard that he's allowed to keep his hands by his face, slip punches and move from side to side as well as backwards when somebody wants to punch him ... I guess it wouldn't be Willard anymore.
     
    BCS8, Apr 26, 2025 at 10:59 AM
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