Is Usyk miles above Bivol pfp ?

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is Usyk multiple levels above Bivol in regards to resume and achievements
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yes. Not even remotely close.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I vote yes, although Bivol has nothing to be ashamed of.
     
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  4. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    How many pound for pound fighters has Bicol beat vs Usyk beat. Usyk gets special treatment no one else does because of the myth of the mega heavy. No man fury’s size has ever been clear #1 at HW besides fury very briefly yet fans treat it like a GOAT tier win because of his size.
     
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  5. chairmanpow

    chairmanpow New Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't say miles. Beating the top dogs at HW with a massive size disadvantage does put Usyk at pfp 1, but fact is he hasn't beaten anyone as good as Beterbiev or Canelo, who are both also PFP fighters.
     
  6. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would say Usyks win over AJ is better than Canelo. Of course Canelo is superior but Canelo was fighting out of his weight class and Usyk was fighting the bigger man.

    The win over Beterbiev is arguably better than any Usyk win. Fury would be arguable, but let’s be real, he lost to Ngannou a boxing novice, even if you make the case that he didn’t take it seriously, I think there’s no doubt Fury would was not close to his peak.

    In terms of overall quality and moving up in weight, Usyks resume is definitely superior.
     
  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Since P4P lists are mostly useless, I'll go with just under 12 parsecs above Bivol
     
  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he isn't.

    Bivol has beaten 2 top 10 P4P fighters and his top 2 wins are better than Usyk's best wins.

    Beterbiev----> Fury
    Canelo---> Joshua

    Usyk has a better resume overall because hes been undisputed in 2 weightclasses and the fighters he's beaten with size differences does give him the edge.

    But if Bivol has 1 or 2 more quality wins say win the trilogy vs Beterbiev and beats Benavidez then it would be alot closer.
     
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  10. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Miles is a strong word I say.
     
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  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Usyk wouldn't struggle with a man who basically only has power on him and a shot knee nearly 40 years old in Berb. Although I do think Berb beat him in amatuers 2 rounds to 1.

    Usyk is better than Bivol and has changed his fighting style to compete better at heavyweight majority of his ring circling has gone has fought men 50 pounds naturally heavier

    Canelo is the most overrated fighter next to Crawford. All the boxing heads had Bivol to box his ugly little ginger nut off and he did with ease in 2nd gear.

    Usyk & Fury are generational special fighters.

    Bivol is a fantastic, top tier but not jesus level which is where Usyk stands.
     
  12. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ramírez? Who now fights at crusierweight
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Yes Usyk is better.

    Bivol barely beat a past it Beterbiev. And i am a Bivol fan.

    Usyk dominated a better cruiserweight division than Bivol's light-heavyweight division.

    Usyk is also a better body puncher and has more p4p power.