Just Watched The Inoue Fight And....

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  1. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Guy is a freak. A truly wonderful fighter.

    I’m all for spirited debate but Inoue is in a class of his own. He’s one of the best we will ever see.
     
  2. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    He's a bit overrated historically by many...

    But he is a great fighter no doubt, and he looked great in that fight... getting up off the canvas and handling business just makes it even better..
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah, you're right, Nery and Cardenas would've literally killed that version of Pacquiao.
     
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  4. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    How do they do against Miguel Cotto or Antonio Margarito?

    Almost sounds unfair due to the size difference, I bet?
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Of course, Cotto and Margarito would decapitate Inoue too.
     
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  6. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Member Full Member

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    Inoue has hit a weight ceiling at 122, I think, whereas Morales started his career there, so if they fought, Erik wins. I think P4P they're on a similar level. Morales lost to some B-list fighters once he moved up too high. It's hard to pass judgment until they've both finished their careers, but Morales lost to Zahir Raheem and David Diaz once he went up too many weights. It wouldn't surprise me if Nick Ball beat Inoue because of the size and physicality, but P4P, they're nowhere near the same level.
     
  7. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is why I hate comparing eras because what would be the litmus test for the JMM/MAB/Morales comparisons?. He’s destroyed every opponent faced yet someone says he couldn’t have competed with Marquez. The same Marquez that went life and death with Katsidis and Juan Diaz?????

    It’s no slight at Marquez but guys are holding him to a standard that even those guys couldn’t uphold. What made them great was advancing to HOF level despite vulnerabilities. When you continue to fight the best of the best across 4-5 divisions you will occasionally get hit flush or get dropped.
     
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  8. Trigger92

    Trigger92 New Member Full Member

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    Been saying for a while now that Junto will cause him big problems. The betting man's money has got to be on Junto.
     
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  9. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean, Inoue's still really, really good and it won't be just anyone who turns the trick on him.

    But, Junto's not just anyone.
     
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  10. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're not allowed to point out supposed p4p#1 Inoue's defensive liabilities against 100-1 underdogs because he's an "entertainer".
     
  11. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s because he’s so aggressive. He could be a lot more careful, win on the cards, but he has this thing where he thinks (probably rightfully so) that his fans want to see him score KOs, so he’s always going to go all out trying to KO opponents. He’s a showman. The opposite of the real careful guys like Shakur.

    It’s a combo is his general nature together with this Japanese sense of honor/obligation he feels toward fans. I saw an interview with him and it was kind of interesting. You see American, British, Mexican KO artists talk about it, they talk about enjoying KOing opponents, wanting to do it kind of as a dominance thing, etc. Inoue is like “that’s what my fans are paying to see, and I cannot let them down”.

    Japanese people are very… Japanese.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Anyone else noticed how threatened many fans are by sexy Asian fighters, especially Chinese and Japanese ones, who dominate or when plus-sized giants like that big sexy Chinese man Big Bang leave a trail of destruction in their wake?

    It's only sexy ones like Inoue and Big Bang because nobody could care less about fugly little chibi creeps like Ginjiro and Kenshiro
     
  13. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    These takes are always tinged with the bias of nostalgia. Morales is undoubtedly a boxing great he wasn't invulnerable; for example he had a tough fight vs Chi, and he lost to Zahir Raheem. I'm not saying Inoue would or wouldn't beat Morales, but it's asinine to to suggest he wouldn't be competitive.
     
  14. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    It's sarcasm, because people like to make an argument that Inoue was better at 118 or whatever than Manny - while ignoring the fact that Manny moved all the way to 147 and dominated world class opposition (several of who are better than just about anyone on Inoue's CV, except MAYBE 10 years past his best Donaire.....)

    With that said, I'm no Inoue hater, and my main point in this thread was to defend him. Getting up off the canvas is the **** champions are made of, and as others have mentioned, even great fighters have lesser performances against so-so opposition at times... It's part of the fight game.
     
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  15. TheShellofKell

    TheShellofKell Nakatani Future P4P #1 Full Member

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    Someone else hopping on the Junto beats Inoue train. Love to see it.