Greatest Thai fighter of all time

Pone Kingpetch at a guess but not with any certainty man if Flea was still here he’d be able to tell you. @roughdiamond or @George Crowcroft know a fair bit more than me about these guys I’ll assume.

 

Most people might say Khaosai Galaxy but for me personally Pone Kingpetch is my vote. Wins over Fighting Harada, Pascual Perez, Hiroyuki Ebihara puts him there as the best Thai boxer.

Khaosai Galaxy was the most dominant with longevity but his resume is mostly littered with a lot of filler and uninspiring opposition other than Israel Contreras. He didn't fight outside Thailand nor did he fight other credible champions like Jiro Watanabe, Sugar Baby Rojas, Nana Konadu, Sung Kil Moon, Gilberto Roman. Whereas his twin brother Khaokor Galaxy has wins over solid fighters Wilfredo Vazquez and Sung Kil Moon.

Srisaket Sor Rungvisai arguably has the best wins out of any Thai boxers outside of Kingpetch with victories over Chocolatito (x2) and Juan Francisco Estrada. Problem was that he didn't stay on top for long and just fell off after losing to Estrada in the rematch and then to Bam later on.

 

It might be Venice Borkhorsor?

 

It's Pone Kingpetch imo

 

Fighter is Samart, and Veeraphol is the second and Samson is the third.

But I know you mean in Boxing... maybe Venice Borkhorsor, I know Khaosai gets overrated but he became underrated when people put 4, 5 guys above him...

 

Probably Pone based on the name value and historicity of his wins, though if I remember correctly there is a bit of context there (definitely didn't deserve the second Harada bout, second Ebihara was a split he probably should've lost too, he also has losses to both men in absolutely brutal fashion so if you count losses harshly then it's a bad look).

Chionoi is massively underrated and imo has a very good resume. Venice honestly has a very good argument imo due to clear wins over guys like Betulio, Salavarria. Sahaphrom was hurt by not being able to unify with Marquez. Pong was top class but I'm not well schooled on him.

I've also just noticed that Venice for some reason has a listed reach of 4 inches on boxrec

 

Yeah, I'm in agreement with Rough. It's between Chartchai and Pone imo.

Venice is potentially the biggest beast at 112 who nobody knows about, and Wongjonkam gets underrated today. Weird how a guy who was champ for as nearly as long as Joe Louis has already been forgotten.

 

I second this answer.

 

Could you break it down? I don’t really know that much about VB just what Flea has said about him here or there and @roughdiamond Ive looked over his record and watched him fight but beyond that…

 

Would you tell me a little about Wongjonkwam? Never heard about him till today despite such a feat, I’m a filthy casual IK IK.

 

Venice Borkorsor was a monster at flyweight. Have no idea how he was squeezing down to 112. Broke into the ratings in '71 and likely attained top contender status with wins over San Sacristan and Fernando Cabanela. I've always wanted to learn more of the Cabanela result but as yet, haven't found a good write-up on it. Cabanela was coming off his world title challenge to Masao Ohba when Borkorsor beat him over 10. VB then got his title shot at Betulio Gonzalez and stopped him in 10 (one of the few times Gonzalez was stopped). Then, in a unification of sorts, whitewashed Erbito Sallavarria over 15. Unable to make 112 anymore, he took on the former #1 contender for the bantamweight title in KO artist Julio Guerrero and stopped him in 6 before challenging bantam champ Rafael Herrera. Herrera's face was plastered over every publication in '73 after their fight. It was a swollen mess and just about every publication had Borkorsor the winner but he lost a split over 15. He then got another shot at Herrera's successor Rodolfo Martinez. He dropped Martinez and lost another split, but I understand that was a good decision. I had read that after the 4th round knockdown Martinez turned southpaw and controlled the fight from there. He held some good wins at bantam over Saul Montana and Joe Gumede but he was petering out after the Martinez fight. He had a long career prior to his pro experience as a kick boxer, so he had been around awhile. Would have loved to have seen him against Chionoi or Ohba.

 

Put Venice Borkhorsor,Pone Kingpetch and Chartchai Chionoi in a flyweight shootout and whoever comes out will be the best Thai fighter.

 

Add Sot Chitalada to that as well.

 

I'm not fully informed on him either, his average title defences seemed to be a bum of the month type deal. However, he was a two time flyweight champ (I believe lineal, too) with 20+ defences across the two reigns. He has a few decent wins too, like Koki Kameda, Malcolm Tunacao and Daisuke Naito.