Best super heavyweight that Archie Moore could beat

Who is the best super heavyweight that you favor prime Archie Moore against? Don't be afraid to mention Lennox Lewis.

 

Jess Willard

 

Is he the best you can think of?

 

i thinks so. Maybe Michael Grant.

 

Maybe Cooney, but that one is subjective and it also depends on whether you consider Cooney a super heavyweight.

 

George Godfrey.

 

Willard and Carnera

 

How are we defining super heavyweight? Is there an over/under on height and weight?

I think Archie might befuddle Old George Foreman, box circles around Shannon Briggs and Michael Grant (a la the way Holmes schooled Ray Mercer) and probably stop Primo Carnera.

There are probably some others but I’d need to know the parameters as asked above to venture a guess. I also don’t think the ones I listed locks for Archie because something big getting through could result in the smaller Mongoose being KO’d if the bigger man was able to press the advantage and follow up.

 

I don’t think Archie Moore could beat Lennox Lewis

 

An interesting stat is that Moore won his 2 disputed HW titles against the 2 biggest top HWs of his era in Valdes and Parker. So he beat the biggest his time had to offer but his time didn't have very much to offer.

 

Liakhovich?
Valuev?

 

Alright then, Lennox Lewis


I think anyone 160 and up has a chance over the 15.

Limitless rounds hardly require weight divisions, that's why there are none for so long and why there have been welterweight sized HW champions


So logically, bringing in modern names all you're really asking is does talent change the interplay of physics and biology. The answer is no, talent keeps things fair. No one is impressed by Archie Moore's ability to whoop my couch potato ass regardless of size because of the talent disparity. Likewise, regardless of how large or small I am getting the better of any world champion looks bad for that champion because of talent disparity.


So, if rules are leveled so any size man can fight any style fitting his size then size disparity is not an issue, talent disparity is not an issue, Moore's taking Lewey to class.

So over 12 - Lewis

over 15 - No real favoritism

Limitless - Moore


Duration favors the small man. If boxing history is not convincing enough have a look at biology before you blind denial me. I'm not guessing, I am telling, duration favors small.


If power favors large and duration favors small then what sized man would have the right mix of power and stamina to dominate them all in limitless contests? Same exact sized man you see in your history being called "heavyweight champion" until marketing long fights become a challenge and scheduled ends make ticket sales.




It is VERY similar to how fans believe boxing is about hitting and not being hit because the old ways were defeated in the ring. Yeah, never happened, the rules changed and fighters fight by the rules. There is no time when defensive fighters are all the champions and whiping the floor with yesteryear's mindless aggression. There is no era when small men were losing to large men in droves or a time when average sized men failed to dominate in rules that allowed average sized men to fight any sized man.

Money, rules, different fight game than before. That's it. Dial it back and you should expect to see the same results fans saw a few hundred years ago to 3 thousand years ago.

But again, if your own history isn't good enough, try biology, anatomy and physiology, kinesiology. Any study of the human body really.








So to break it down real simple like; I'm saying I rate their talents equally, in a time that favors large, I favor large, in a time that favors small, I favor small, and in a time whose favoritism is difficult to determine I make no choice at all.

 

Perhaps 6'4 and greater and 225 or more

 

I would be afraid for Archie's life if he had to face Gerry Cooney! Are you trying to kill the guy?