Usyk was saved by the ref that was a legit KO by Dubois

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  1. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield fights also almost all of them give off this impression that it’s a massive effort, even the ones he is winning. Probably because they come up from Cruiserweight.
     
  2. rolzone

    rolzone Active Member Full Member

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    I’d imagine it is. Fighting a good bigger man is hard lol
     
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  3. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's got a stick up his ass about Eastern Euros. It's a startling blindspot from an otherwise respectable poster.
     
  4. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No I don't
    I rate usyk very highly. It's the fanboys who declare him goat and overrate him that is bothersome. I said he is arguably top 50 all time. That's an amazing ranking for someone with around 12 ranked wins
     
  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought it was a low blow. but even if you believe it wasnt, it was called a low blow

    Had it been called a legit punch maybe Usyk beats the 10 count ?

    Obviously he didnt need to beat a 10 count but im not so sure he wouldnt have

    Dubious quit off a jab later in the fight which doesnt really sit right with me anyways.

    The rematch should be good. Dubious has gotten better and Usyk has probably slipped a little and gotten worse due to age and being in 2 tough fights with Fury
     
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  6. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    He flopped and he had to sell it to prevent it being scored a knock down. Did body shot hurt him, probably. Was it a stoppage punch, nope.
     
  7. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not questioning your boxing IQ, my guy. I'm questioning your impartiality toward fighters from a certain geographic region and/ or common heritage (Usyk, Loma, GGG....notice a pattern??).
     
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  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    That image is misleading. The punch has not landed yet. It lands higher up.
     
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  9. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I loathe Luis Pabon like the coming of a million plagues, but he got the initial call right when he called it low. It wasn't on the cup but the point of contact was clearly below the belt and on the trunks area. Moreover, Usyk's trunks weren't high enough for any latitude to be given. It didn't land in a legal area and Usyk didn't do anything to direct the punch to the impacted area. Not a kd/ko.

    However, Usyk was given almost a minute's worth of rest after he signaled he was ready to continue, and that contravenes the rules about how fouls are handled as per the WBA. That's the one legitimate gripe that Dubois had regarding this incident and had he chosen to pursue his protest on the basis of this he probably could have landed an immediate rematch. Probably worked out best for him that he didn't, all things considered.

    Now, this is a much bigger fight.
     
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  10. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Why is this still a thing? FFS.

    Punch was low. Reaction was that of a low-blow. If it was counted as a KD Usyk gets up and still wins.

    Now that we have a rematch though let's see if Dubois can replicate his 'success'. If he can legit KO Usyk with a bodyshot that'd be something.
     
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  11. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Could tag many on here who hate on Ward, Floyd, hopkins, tank, shakur, haney, Holyfield Does that mean they hate all American fighters?

    I like vitali and don't hate on kovalev, Bivol (other than calling him boring, but since retracted) and beterbiev

    You are a fan of certain fighters so will call me out, but not others who hate in certain fighters of other regions

    Loma overrated, as many called him goat
    GGG feasted on cans in a terrible division
    Usyk great, but fighting in a bad era with less ranked wins than Floyd, manny etc
    Wlad boring clincher who ruled a weak era with his negative style

    That is not hate, but my opinions and I fully stand by them
     
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  12. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Laughed my a** off man. Thanks for the chuckle.
     
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  13. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    .....if you are a ****** who DKSAB.
     
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  14. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still lands below the navel ;)
     
  15. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    I don’t think it’s fair to describe Usyk as being a drama Queen when it comes to low blows.

    Usyk is a very clean fighter, including him not throwing low blows - he has every right to expect to be treated in kind.

    Notably, quite a feat to keep his punches up against Dubois also given how high Daniel actually wore his own trunks. Same goes for hitch em high Fury. :D

    Usyk being especially vulnerable to the body is a myth imo. He’s taken terrific legit shots to that area before - worn them well and naturally, some are going to smart but he doesn’t reactively fold like a cheap tent upon a hard, legal shot to the belly.

    Fury tried it on to the body, including more than a few stray shots - it would make sense that be didn’t pursue the body attack more if it wasn’t yielding the instant results he might’ve expected/hoped for -

    I think Fury bought into the vulnerability to the body myth and discovered that it simply wasn’t true.