Who is the most strategic & analytical coach in boxing?

I spent a few hours training with Malik Scott at the weekend, and have to say I was very impressed with the guy.

 

davidson is garbage. Mcguig

 

Not convinced with scott. Great boxing and tactical knowledge by all means.

But knowledge without actually knowing what your doing with that knowledge can end up a bad thing imo. Look at wilder. Breland knew he was limited and made the most of them limitations. On the other hand scott went to work with all this knowledge without being able to even realise wilders limitations.

Almost too much knowledge without properly knowing how to apply it. Ben davidsons pretty similar. Have all the knowledge but dont quite have the experience to know how to use it.

Some of the best coaches dont actually have the most knowledge. Their talent is knowing what knowledge is actually needed for their particular fighter.

Both should probably still be working under someone at the level their operating at imo. Early days tho and question marks still remain over weather wilders completely damaged goods or not in fairness.

 

Always liked Chris Sanigar, done every job in boxing from fighter to second, trainer, manager and promoter.

Had a kid in tonight on DAZN bill Sutton, gave his fighter every opportunity threw the towel in as he wasn't going to win, no one likes a brave trainer. He's taken a lot of unheralded and away fighters over the decades and bought them on taken calculated risks and got rewards.

Lee Selby for example huge betting underdog v Stephen Smith knew he would have to probably ko him to win did and obviously he went on to have a great career.

 

Wilder is completely finished.

Even Chisora would stop him in 3 rounds now.

 

I think he probably is finished but scotts not helped matters. Brought him in against zhang at 215 lbs about the same weight he was way back in 2009. Zhang was 282 lbs for that fight. Idiotic move from scott and wilder.

Wilder should have been the weight he was for the 3rd fury fight around 240 lbs to have any real chance.

Hes fought for twenty years without any fat on him. At 40 years old you need a bit more weight. Legs we,re always thin but they we,re twigs against zhang.

No wonder he was scared to throw the right hand. Scotts busy trying to teach a guy to become a boxer that never really had the mechanics for it...at 40 years old to boot.

Just silly. Breland had the right idea. He knew wilder was limited so set him up with a style that complimented his toolset.

On the other hand scotts trying to teach someone that doesnt have the mechanics for it to box at 40 while bringing him in thinner than he needs to be at 40 years old.

I still think wilder has something to offer. Scotts got him hesitant tho by a combination of taking away his ace and bringing him in underweight at this stage.

He could well be finished but either way scotts killing him at this stage.

 

Wilder went out on his shield in the Fury Trilogy fight and he should have retired when the fight was waved off.

Passed the warriors code with flying colours and came within 1 second of beating Fury twice.

Don't think any trainer can teach an older pro boxer new tricks and his time has gone.

Great career, provided some great KOs, really enjoyed his fights and hopefully he retires with health intact.

 

I think Deontay Wilder is a hard fighter to solely judge Malik Scott on, despite how close he pushed Fury in the third fight, Wilder was still a limited fighter coming off his first loss and entering the twilight of his career. His work with unified WBA/WBO Cruiserweight champion Gilberto Ramirez or British prospect Ezra Taylor have been impressive.

 

Yep spot on, small HW willing to roll the dice and trade unfortunately that fighting style when you end up on the wrong side of stoppages and your timing and what punch resistance you had erodes, time to call it a day.

 

Andy Lee

 

Shane for me, he's a bright lad, pretty wise for his years

 

Thinking about which trainers inter round instructions have impressed and Andre Rozier came to mind. He's very calm, his advice is considered and there's not too much information thrown at his fighters, just a couple of well thought out tweaks or adjustments.

 

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A bit of insight from Mark Tibbs

 

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