Did Foreman cut water weight at weigh-ins?

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    You realise the issue isn’t “size” (for me anyway) it’s more that he fought like a“big” fighter which is stylistically problematic if he fights the man sized HW’s today Usyk does not fight sloppily winging wide hooks trying to overpower anyone he boxes for a reason.
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    As sure as the setting sun.
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    You lucky SOB. What year was this?
     
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  4. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Ah, surprise, surprise, another pathetic non defence of your factually refuted position.

    We know exactly who’s angry wee man. Grrrr!

    You have some very obvious, long standing internal issues going on there, “Aye”? :lol::lol::lol:
     
  5. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imagine George getting the tainted beef into him that today’s powerhouses do on top of his God given natural strength and power.

    Scary thought actually. Terrifying for his critics.
     
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    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Who the **** cleared this guy to post after being demolished by Cobra?
     
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  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, and the possible dehydration was before entering the ring, not the weigh in.

    With that said, Foreman was clearly strong for his size, throwing for example Chuvalo around. And a guy like Bakole is probably 250 lbs in decently lean shape. Fury even a bit less (see Wlad fight), but even post Zaire Foreman would be spotting them around 20 lbs. Would be interesting to see him butt heads with for example Bakole.

    Personally, I don't see lack of strength and power as Foreman's main problems in today's scene, rather what he'd give up in height and reach with his lack of head movement and extended guard.
     
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't think second career Foreman was on roids? I'd be very surprised if he wasn't.
     
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  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was around gyms during that time and had 10 years of inactivity and excess weight to shake off while coming into middle age... Steroids would have been a great help definitely and he would have been within his rights to take them for the first three years of his come back.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chisora has plenty of success dogfighting bigger guys and while he's more massive than Foreman, his frame is smaller and not nearly as accurate or as powerful as George. It's going to be a height and reach problem more than anything, anyone standing in front of Foreman are coming off second best. Be it Zhang or Dubois aka Lerena victim
     
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  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Likely not a grave concern, no. :)
     
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chisora doesn't have a style "designed" to fight bigger opponents. People also claim his style gives smaller guys more problems than most SHW by virtue of pressure and cutting the ring. His goal is to maul you and that can work for every size big or small as long as you have the strength and punch selection to hold your ground and hurt them.

    And as we've seen Chisora can still compete in the top 10 as an old man with a 6 round gas tank before throwing spent swings despite struggling with an old Gerald Washington a couple years back, which shows the top level besides Usyk is nothing to write home about. I'm not seeing why Foreman isn't capable of clearing
     
  14. Bokaj

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    Chisora's style is designed to fight taller guys, but, yeah, not bigger and stronger.

    Foreman's style was neither.
     
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  15. Pat M

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    I'd be surprised if 70s GF, along with most of the division wasn't using PEDs too. In the 70s (and before) PEDs were legal, abundant and there was no testing. Why wouldn't a fighter use them?

    I watched some of the video of Ali - Foreman and GF was walking like he was drunk when the bell rang to go to corner at the end of the 3rd round. His stamina was a serious weakness. He did come back with a busy 5th round, but got beat up at the end of that round.

    The later 70s GF trained by Clancy (that knew how to pace himself better) would probably have been a much tougher fight for 74 Ali and the 80s-90s version would have done better too IMO.