Joseph Parker gets sent to the 1960s, does he clear the lot ? (Boxing Evolution Theory)

No way does Tyson lose to Wilder.

 

He did a good job. People generally tend to compare old and new in every sport and think that the old ones are better. but I really don't know why. Everyone is pointing to Usyk as an example, but just because Usyk is small and has good wins doesn't mean that others will do the same.

 

Sometimes some of the older fighters were better.

It’s just that simple.

People are pointing to Usyk, because we have a lunatic in here who says that Ali couldn’t even have competed with today’s guys. Which is so beyond laughable, it shouldn’t even need to be discussed.

 

Parker would weigh 100kg if he fought in the 60s.

 

No - I'm saying that most of these old legends

who are basically CWs in today's world

would mostly lose to today's giant SHWs - who are truly Mobile and Athletic for their size.

Could they win the odd fight? Sure.

But mostly they would lose. It is simple math.

 

Just give us some specific names, and some specific match ups.


But you are now moving the goal posts.


You initially said:

1. That AJ, Usyk, Parker and Fury, would dominate the 60’s, 70’ and 80’s.

2. That Ali couldn’t even have competed today.


Now both of those statements are ludicrous.

 

If you transport ANY of those guys - Fury, AJ, Usyk, Parker, Wlad or prime Lennox - back to the 60s, 70s, 80s or early 90s

they would EASILY dominate due to sheer

SIZE, Mobility, Athleticism, Training, etc.

Just like they would dominate the CW division today.

 

I agree with this. for example, Ali, Foreman, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield and many other important former boxers could have beaten the current boxers, but they might not have. what I'm talking about is people who always choose former boxers against new fighters.

 

I think Parker is full of PEDs, his huge physique can't be explained otherwise.

 

Nope - he is SAMOAN

Ref. Just look at DAVID TUA !!!

 

What planet are you on exactly??


Please absorb the following information:


Wladamir was knocked out by 3 non elite guys in his own era. And he hit the canvas 13 times. And even in his so called prime, he could barely beat Sam Peter.

Lewis lost to 2 non elite HW’s, who were both 6’2, and he barely beat Ray Mercer.

Usyk isn’t unbeatable. He barely beat Mairis Breidis.

AJ couldn’t beat Ruiz or Dubois.

Fury couldn’t beat Usyk.

Parker couldn’t beat Joyce, and could barely beat Andy Ruiz and Hughie Fury.


Do you understand that?

That’s what happened in real time, during their actual careers.


So then how could those exact same guys, have DOMINATED THREE decades, which contained fighters such as:


Muhammad Ali
Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Ken Norton
Larry Holmes
Joe Frazier
Mike Tyson

??


Could they have competed and beat some of those guys?

Yes.

More than likely.


But could all of those fighters have DOMINATED, ALL of those guys?

Absolutely NOT.


Why?

Because each one of them either struggled with, or was beaten by, LESSER fighters, in WEAKER eras.


Stop being silly.


What you have typed is completely NONSENSICAL.


Now you’re either trolling, or you’re completely uneducated on the sport’s history.

 

Let's imagine we put prime Fury (a very MOBILE 6'8" monster)

right in today's CW division. Just as he is. 270 lbs of Prime Fury.

Does he dominate even the BEST CW fighters? Does he take over the division?

Of course he does.

All those "legends" you mentioned are basically CW fighters today.

They have a slight chance but not a great one.

 

Ali was 6'3 could weigh between 210-220 and had a 78 inch reach that's identical physical attributes to Usyk.

Holmes was also 6'3 and weighed near enough the same as Usyk except he had a longer reach.

I don't know why you think Heavyweights from 40 or 50 years ago are Cruiserweights. Most of the notable fighters from the 70s like Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Ali, were near enough identical in size to Usyk with Norton, Foreman, being naturally bigger than Usyk without cutting so much weight as it was different times then where you needed extra cardio for 15 round bouts.

Fury didn't "dominate" Cunningham who was Cruiserweight sized who put him on the seat of his pants.

I don't get what you're saying it makes no sense so you're saying historically great Heavyweights who are pretty much equal size to Usyk couldn't compete now. But yet Usyk is considered the best Heavyweight in the world now ? And is basically the same size as most 70s-80s Heavyweights ?

That makes 0 sense.

 

Jai Opetaia would be a very big chance of taking out Fury. He’d be even money to beat Parker.

Usyk already has mugged off Fury. Twice you simple idiot. Usyk is a blown up CW of the same dimensions as Ali, who is straight up better than Usyk.

All three guys are giving Fury size, height and reach.

 

On AVERAGE, the top SHWs beat every CW.

And on AVERAGE, they would always do so - even if the CW is named Moorer or Ali or Liston. They are still CWs.

The CW div was actually invented to stop the smaller 200 lb guys from getting dominated by the SHWs.

That is why it exists.

Your "legends" are all CWs. And on AVERAGE they would be dominated by every top SHW.