itauma route to the world champion

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  1. ZiggyBowie

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    You must be trolling if you seriously think that Moses would currently beat Tyson Fury, AJ and Parker. Moses has shown a lot of promise, but he has fought no one of note that would make anyone think he would stand a chance with those guys. Let’s see how good Moses is when someone actually hits him and can give him a few rounds.
    I actually suggested Hughie Fury, as he is durable and can take a punch and has a style that Moses won’t have seen and could frustrate him.
     
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  2. LiamInChains

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    10 more fights against bums before getting in there against Wallin who he would destroy now? Waste of time, he needs step up opponents from Mckean and Wach who he’s demolished. Franklin is the lowest level opponent he should be fighting next.
     
  3. Mark Anthony

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    AJ is there for the taking, his defence was awful vs Dubois and he has no chin, Fury has been in poor condition the last few years and is 36.
     
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  4. Beale

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    AJ has never been that great and could never take even a mediocre power punch as evidenced all those years ago when an injured Dillian Whyte caught him in round 2.

    That is the reason he had a career of Charles Martin opponents to win a World Title and very soft title defences against small and/or old men - any fighter who lets the hands go will wipe him out as Andy Ruiz did.

    Hearn and his management team done very well to sell the public a pup branding every fight as 50/50 or huge threats when in reality it was less than 5% chance of losing nearly all of the time. Only old men Povetkin and Klitschko were dangerous if their old bodies could land a huge blow.

    Fury got lucky in 2 of the Wilder fights being 1 second from losing in both and Usyk was clearly the better man in both fights.

    Both sold well by promoters during a rotten era until the arrival of Usyk but neither elite fighters for me.
     
  5. ZiggyBowie

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    I disagree about Fury. His win over Wlad deserves all the plaudits. I don’t get the luck comment because he got up at 9 the rules are you get 10
    Seconds to beat the count, it doesn’t matter if you get up at 3 or 9 and lets be honest in that first Wilder fight ( which Fury clearly won) Fury went on to dominate the round. Fury’s levels of recovery are better than anyone’s I’ve ever seen. Usyk for me clearly didn’t win the first fight, it was very close with most people having Usyk just edging it. I still scored it 114-113 Fury as did other people, but I accept it was close and I can even see 115-112 Usyk.
    Usyk for me won the second fight 115-113 Interestingly enough, more people were screaming robbery on twitter after the second fight, yet for me that was more of a clear winner Usyk. In the first Usyk fight, Fury looked very good at times and in rounds 5&6 was doing a number on Usyk like nobody has previously. Usyk even admits that was his toughest fight.
     
  6. ash234

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    The second knockdown in Wilder 1 and first knockdown in Wilder 3 were very long counts. He got lucky that the Wallin fight never got waved off either. If Wallin had the cut Fury did it would have 100% been called off.
     
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  7. Beale

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    The Wlad v Fury fight was the worst stinker I have ever seen by a mile and both fighters should have been disqualified for cowardice.

    The sad thing about Fury is we will never know if he could have developed into an elite fighter after wasting his best years.

    That was most likely the difference when he fought Usyk in fight 1 fading as the fight progressed and lucky not to be knocked out. Usyk had his slippers on in fight 2 for me and had Fury's number.

    Usyk always makes adjustments during fights and his boxing IQ exceeds the fighting man that used to be John Fury's sperm.
     
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  8. Mark Anthony

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    Made some good points, but Wilder was a poor champion anyway.
     
  9. eat more offal

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    Joshua vs Parker was a bigger stinker.
     
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    I think Itauma would beat those three. Fury, Joshua, and Parker are outrageously overrated.
     
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  11. Beale

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    Joey 12 right up there with the best stinkers of all time.
     
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    That was a disappointing one for me because Joshua had just come off the back of Klitschko and it was an entertaining one, and Parker had been in some scrappy sort of fights. I honestly can't recall one decent flurry from either. I don't think it exists.

    I heard Spencer Oliver the other day saying something like "Joshua who beat Parker, and beat him the way he did" as if enough time has passed to insinuate that it was actually a dominant performance. Joshua basically won by default. I remember Dwyer off YouTube doing a post fight analysis saying Parker won. To me it was a dreary one with Joshua just touching Parker with the odd jab.
     
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  13. Beale

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    Two scared men and the ref jumping in at every opoortunity when a fight threatened to break out.
     
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    And let's be honest, there wasn't much of a threat, which highlights how dodgy the referee was.
     
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  15. Mark Anthony

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    Ref stopped the action every time Parker got inside.