Will the athletes 60 years from now make the modern boxers look like club fighters

How is Hagler—a switch-hitting god with inside game, fantastic boxing abilities, titanium chin, cracking punch, and excellent conditioning—mentioned as archaic? The likes of Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Willie Pep, Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, or Jose Napoles are not being made look archaic by anyone, ever, up until we move into science fiction territory of genetically enhanced humans.

 

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I think it's already peaked, from the 70's to the 90's athletes were at the peak. Sure there are some anomolies, but how many fighters could go 15 fast paced rounds, today? I don't look back at the 70's and 80's and think those were lesser athletes than fighters today. Even further back, I don't believe their to be a more well rounded fighter than Ray Robinson, which was over 70 years ago.

 

No. This difference only matters at the start when no one knows what they are doing and everyone is establishing techniques through trial and error.

Evolution does not stop like in nature but it took millions and millions of years. People expecting each generation to be a different species have a distorted view of the concept.

 

Maybe boxers 20,000 years from now will be superior.

But evolution is a slow process. The idea that evolution is endless and extremely fast is of course preposterous.

 

baseball players have been on steriods since the 90's.

I am not sure about the hitting harder than ever before part. How? Which heavyweight today is such an enormous puncher that we haven't seen something like it before?

Holyfield said that Foreman, a 1970's fighter, hit him harder than anyone even though Foreman was a generation apart.

Which heavyweight today throws a harder left hook than David Tua or Mike Tyson?

Which heavyweight today has a better right hand than Lennox Lewis, a man who retired 22 years ago?

I honestly do not see any evidence of guys hitting harder.

 

You've made too many of these. I think we're getting what you're doing now. Lol

 

Here's a better question: Why do boxers from 50 years ago make todays fighters look like club fighters

 

Since the average testosterone levels in men has dropped by about half since the 70s, will the male athletes 60 years from now be getting periods?

 

“Janibek for example would demolish Monzon, Robinson and Haglar”. “Too big and too skilled”. Seriously??? That’s such an egregiously imbecilic statement to make. Are you trolling, inebriated, or simply, just not very bright? Using your logic against you and after nearly 13k posts, one would think you would evolve to the point where you are capable of articulating an intelligent concept and posting it. Yet it has not occurred. No disrespect to Janibek. He is a solid champion and exciting fighter to watch, but he has done nothing to imply he be mentioned in the class of those 3.

 

Ouch! boy that truth really stings!

 

I am a "boxing evolutionist" broadly speaking.

But boxing improvement is, in my view, a curve approaching but never meeting 1.

The difference between guys fighting in the 30's and 60's is bigger than the difference between the 60's and 90's is bigger than the 90's and 2020's. The space for improvement is constanty diminishing and the margins are getting finer and finer.

Take height as an example; of course there are advantages to being tall, but people arent genetically disposed to getting infinitely taller on a linear scale, there's only so tall a man can get.

The same applies, in my view, to other aspects of the game and while it isn't so straightforward as to suggest that all attributes are getting better all the time, I do think that the overall standard has got higher but there's only so high it can get.

There must be genetic, pharmaceutical, and talent limits to the human condition.

So, yes, they will probably be better than today on the whole but that doesn't necessarily mean that anyone from that era is clearing the 2020 division undefeated. But maybe the number 10 or 15 in 60 years would be number 1 today.

Who knows, none of this is linear, maybe the champ in 2040 will be better than 2060, will be better than 2020, idk.