Would Anthony Joshua do worse then Ron Lyle against Ali?

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Does he do better or worse - about the same?

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Big Toney country baby Full Member

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    Keep your angst and abuse to yourself bro “don’t quote me” etc cheers.
     
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    Journeyman92 Big Toney country baby Full Member

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    Yeah around this time Ali wasn’t really Ali I think AJ is better in some ways then Norton and Lyle and good enough at this time in the great man’s life to get him.
     
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  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Big Toney country baby Full Member

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    In 1975-76 it was….

    Chuck Wepner - it’s Wepner LOL also he took him to the 15th…

    Ron Lyle - not an overly good fighter, solid but he made Ali work harder then Foreman with just conventional boxing.

    Bunger - who he already beat and had sparring partner syndrome…

    Shot Frazier - Took him to the edge, almost quit. Fair enough.

    Coopman - he sucked

    Dunn - he sucked

    Young - he probably lost

    Norton - he probably lost

    I’d be shocked to see AJ not come out of the fight at least looking decent, if not outright winning surely he’d do better than Lyle? He was at one time looked at as the best in the world.
     
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    Next in Journeyman92

    Roy Jones Jr beats Ken Norton
     
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  5. greynotsoold

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    Quarry wasn't known, particularly, for his dedication to training and he was known to like a drink and so on. It is very possible that, if he was the same size as Tyson Fury, that his results would be simialr.
     
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  6. Journeyman92

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    Norton guts Roy like a fish.
     
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  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Big Toney country baby Full Member

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    He’d have beaten Wilder a lot easier at least? Jerry Fury still losses to Usyk but vs Klitschko? - good win, good fight at a minimum. If he had Quarry’s attitude “meanness” and competitive spirit especially it would reflect in his resume look at the contenders he fought!
     
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  8. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Big Toney country baby Full Member

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    @greynotsoold @Pat M what do you think? AJ of the 2nd Ruiz fight maybe AJ of the Wlad fight whichever good version you see fit vs Ali in 1975? How does AJ do is he remembered as a 70s Golden Era Demi God who’d be Joe Louis in another era?
     
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  10. Pat M

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    I think we've discussed this before, but when I watched 21 year old Quarry (maybe cleaner living, or the life style hadn't affected him yet?) vs. Alex Miteff, he looked good. It might be the best version of Quarry I've seen. I think he weighed about 193, he wasn't carrying any fat, and he looked quick. Even in this type condition he might still have lost to Ali and Frazier but I have to think he would have done better overall.

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  11. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    Ali wasn't at his best for the Lyle fight and I personally wouldn't be surprised if Joshua did better or maybe even scored an upset. He's also got a psychological advantage. Imagine you're Ali, you're about to head out and fight Ron Lyle only to find out he's been replaced by 6'6 245 pound mildly annoying British guy who claims he's from the year 2018 and everyone is just letting this fight happen instead of figuring what's going on? I would certainly not have my head in the game if I was Ali.
     
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