If Crawford beats Canelo..

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  1. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm of Mexican descent, and I am HOPING Bud beats that disgusting, foul mouthed idiot masquerading as a Mexican warrior.
     
  2. Eternal

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    It's sort of interesting that GGG vs Crawford would hold almost the same significance as Can vs Craw. GGG has two wins over Can and 1 draw versus him.

    It's not reasonable to expect Crawford to go up to light heavyweight to fight against men who have zero commercial value and a size advantage.

    If Crawford wins then he should consider fighting GGG or Bivol at super middleweight. Barlenga might also be a good choice, other than those fellows there really aren't any big fights out there for him. Maybe a good bet would be to not beat Canelo too convincingly so that a rematch or two can be made.
     
  3. Barrf

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    Then Bivol vs Dubois?
     
  4. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Could Bivol even make 168? I've seen his ring weight at around 190 when I tried looking for it last. he's 6ft tall and not exactly a little guy.
     
  5. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair alot of people did.
    Don’t know why exactly but they did.
     
  6. TNSNO1878

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    P4P Bud is more skilled than Canelo, and even if Canelo were at 154 and stayed there his whole career, I would still fancy Crawford to win, but going up two weight classes to 168 after having only one fight at 154 is too much of a mountain. It's the same reason Inoue would look bad against someone like Nick Ball or Espinoza at featherweight; he's not a natural at the weight, but pound for pound, he's streets ahead.

    There's no denying Bud's talent, but going up two weight classes to fight a guy who has knocked out world-level fighters at 175 is dangerous matchmaking. All fighters have a ceiling, and I think Crawford's is 154, never mind 160 or 168. As the Madrimov fight showed, his power was non-existent at 154. I have no idea how people think he will stop Canelo, who Kovalev, Bivol, or Golovkin couldn't put a dent in. If he beats him, then he's back to P4P #1, but I've got Canelo by KO between 6 and 9.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Clenelo comes in at 178-180 max

    Crawford weighed 169.8lbs for his 154 debut, a very lean 169.8lbs. Lean being the operative word

    He weighed more than career 154 Madrimov despite it being his first fight t the weight and his 4th weight class but Madrimov was the ''much bigger man'' or according to the narrative were told to believe. I told you that was pure fantasy and that they would weigh roughly the same as each other and I that I wouldn't be surprised if Crawford weighed more. They tried to lock me in an insane asylum for that but once again I was proven right

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    Golovkin 168 - Proksa 166

    Golovkin 170 - Macklin 170

    Golovkin 173 - Rubio 181

    Golovkin 167 - Rosado ?

    Golovkin 170 - Monroe 172

    Golovkin 170 - Lemieux 175

    Golovkin 171 - Wade 175

    Golovkin 170 - Jacobs was about 180 by the time he climbed into the ring per Vic Conte

    GGG 173 - Vanes 170

    Crawford said he weighed about 186 not long ago

    Does he look at all fat or out of shape here?

    How would he look if he lost 10lbs here weighing say 176 between 2-4lbs less than what Clenelo comes in at? There is not big size disparity between them even if Crawford were to come in 10lbs lighter than he is here there still won't be.

    He actually looks bigger than Clenelo but we're supposed to keep pretending our eyes aren't seeing what they're seeing and it's David vs Goliath :lol:

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  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    ???
     
  9. Eternal

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    The thing about it is that Crawford would be the a-side so if he is supposed to make that fight then getting some advantage is a must I think.
     
  10. Barrf

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    Again, could Bivol even make 168? Without dehydration, he's about 190, and he's pretty lean. You think he could dehydrate over 20lbs?
     
  11. Eternal

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    Bivol was saying he could make it for a Canelo fight. Regardless of if he can or not Crawford should not fight him at light heavyweight.
     
  12. Barrf

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    I agree Crawford shouldn't fight him at LHW. That would be insane. Bivol is huge compared to Crawford, he's a speedster for a LHW so the usual small man advantage likely wouldn't even be there, and given the size difference, I wouldn't expect Bivol to seem as mediocre in power against Crawford as he does against LHWs.
     
  13. JusABoxinFan

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    Yet we've heard nothing suggesting that Crawford is walking away from the sport. He's actually said the opposite in a couple of interviews earlier this year.

    Crawford has stated this is a fight he wants for his own legacy being that he couldn't get other fights he pushed Top Rank to get for him for example the Pacman fight. Too many goofy fans worried about Crawford and his finances and trying to utilize that as a way to discredit him actually doing what great competitors do. He's jumping 2/3 divisions to fight another top fighter and future Hall of Famer. Being that Canelo is a cash cow, it's a huge plus for him, but Canelo, though he isn't in his "prime" as people point out, is still a load to deal with. This would be a damn good win if Crawford is to pull it off....PERIOD.

    I've come to the realization that people will find any and every reason to throw salt on any accomplishment that Crawford gains and/or attempts. Crawford will be 38 around the time he fights Canelo.... Retirement check?.....if you must count his pockets, do research, the man is far from broke. He's put financially intelligent people around him who have helped him to invest his money in multiple things that will take care of him and his family well beyond his career ending. People forget Turki is not the only "rich man" who highly respects and is invested in Crawford....there's a guy by the name of Warren Buffet who has helped Crawford to invest in Real Estate along side Creighton University and other places that will allow him to see his 'money make money'........ And nothing he's done has kept him from being involved in his community nor (most importantly) his family.

    Only thing "circus" about this is the clown fans who consistently belittle the fight yet were okay pushing for a Spence/Canelo fight a few years back. The lazy analysts who keep pushing the "size difference" when clearly we've seen multiple times that Canelo isn't a huge guy in comparison to Crawford who had been draining himself to make 147 for too long. Well before this fight was even thought of, we've heard guys like Boo Boo, Hurd, Eubanks, and even Plant mention that Bud wasn't much smaller than them when he wasn't in camp.

    I mean, we've yet to see these guys who are so much 'bigger' and 'stronger' than Crawford to physically bully him in the ring. From Diaz to Horn to Benavidez to Brooke to Porter to Spence to Madrimov......all who pointed at his size yet they were on the back foot and/or picking themselves up off the canvas.

    You would think that on a site in which the forums are heavily filled with "What Ifs" and "Fantasy Matchups".......you would respect this fight occurring. Crawford, who dominated at 147lbs vs Canelo who did the same at 168lbs, with both being in the p4p conversation for the last decade straight while being the 2 most decorated active fighters in the sport having an opportunity to give us a match up that was brought up 4 or 5 years ago and was far from taken serious by either camp given their status and divisions they were competing in.

    How do y'all show respect in fantasy conversations that can't be proven like the threads discussing a Cotto vs Madrimov at 154 or Floyd vs Madrimov at 154 or Usyk vs Lennox in their prime, etc....but here we have 2 highly skilled greats of the same era but different divisions, giving us an opportunity to see a possible "What if" played out in real time.
     
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  14. The Real Lance

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    Asterix' are for fragile fanboys and idiots. If TC wins, he wins and deservers credit.
     
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  15. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    So what does this all prove when Bud beats Canelo?