Is inoue greater than Lomachenko

That's mainly the reason why Japan is always going to fall short when comparing the number of great fighters to US and Japan. Every boxing era is always going to produce a lot of African American boxing champs, some that are likely going to reach actual greatness level. It helps that most of them have different body mass where they can range from Featherweight all the way up to Heavyweight while the majority of Japanese fighters fight at small weight classes from Strawweight to Bantamweight. It's not common to see Japanese fighters at Lightweight and above because they're naturally smaller people.

Japan has had a number of world champs over the years but just not enough that have actually reached ATG until just recently with Naoya Inoue who is arguably the best to come out from that country next to Fighting Harada. I'm just glad Japanese boxing is now at a point in time where they are producing more talents and world champs compared to previous decades. I can envision boxing in Japan continuing to grow strong in the next coming years even after Inoue retires.

 

Loma was amazing in two weight classes, Inoue has been amazing in, what, 4 or 5. No excuses are necessary for Inoue, for Loma they have become increasingly more fanciful. Short reach was invented as an excuse solely on his behalf. That is saying something.

 

African Americans represent a racial population in the United States, not an "ethnic" one.

Today, I would be very surprised if black fighters didn't exceed the number of white fighters in the US by a very large number. Indeed, white Americans largely abandoned the sport many years ago.

In earlier eras in American history, however, these numbers were not nearly so imbalanced and almost certainly favored whites in terms of overall participants. Yet black fighters were still often overrepresented in terms of the very best in a given time period.

Conversely, black American participation rates in boxing have declined in recent years, and the sport is more global than it has ever been. Nevertheless, the best fighter on the planet is still arguably African American (Crawford).

That was my point in noting that, while overall participation rates etc play a role, excellence in an endeavor like this isn't simple a function of numbers.

 

I believe that number has subsided in the past few decades. Black Americans are choosing other avenues to become successful.

 

I sincerely doubt the pool of African American boxers exceeds those of ALL other racial, ethnic, and national groups combined.

Again, it's not a function of numbers. Rather it's that black Americans have historically excelled at the sport more than other demographics.

 

Inoue is the only (IMO) active GREAT he’s my fighter of this time, I really, really like that guy he’s like a less defensive little Joe Louis - Canelo is disinterested and Crawford while I think he beats Canelo in this upcoming fight… eh didn’t do anything for me. “The Matrix” is just “a guy” to me an amateur getting paid in the pros a hype train who turned out not to be a bust but a very good pro but not “special” in the grand scheme of things.

 

Yes? So we're going to give him achievements he didn't hava as a pro? The simple fact is that Inoue has achieved more as a pro and has two fewer losses than Loma at the sama age (and don't give me any excuses about the Lopez loss), so that makes his pro career greater as it currently stands.

Sure, Inoue might still do something similar to what Loma did against Lopez and that might change things. I would be schocked if Inoue just ran for almost the first half of the fight and then bitched about the decision, but we'll see I guess.

 

Look at the shoes, man. Inoue is wearing heels. Loma is 5 centimeters taller and has a bigger frame too.

All your text wall for nothing.

By weight bully giants I guess you mean rigo, who was a small superbantam.

Man, have some decency and delete your post. I won't even fully quote it, so that you can save your honour.